Trolls R Us Resurrections

Both of those are an obvious “yes”.

Never mind. I didn’t notice who I was addressing.

If I agreed, I would want him banned or at least warned. At least we know where we disagree, then.

~Max

Better late than never.

Well, he could then be an unmitigated unrepentant asshole.

If he also likes to post things that offend others for shits and giggles - I guess we just can’t tell, so it’s all good, right?

I happen to choose “both”.

And the fact that others in Texas are also unmitigated unrepentant assholes who think that killing immigrants is a terrific idea does not change my assessment of this individual.

Iff so, then that’s trolling and he should be warned or banned.

If you can tell, you should be able to articulate why and I encourage you to send a report to the mods. I don’t personally find the post so absurd to safely assume he’s trolling (as Atamasama does), and I can’t think of another reason to assume he’s trolling.

~Max

I don’t need to report anything. It’s a mod call, and they are well aware of what’s going on and how to interpret the rules.

Yes, it’s certainly hard to determine motivation from a person’s posts. But ultimately it often simply comes down to “don’t be a jerk”.

But part of this is to all appearances magellan had a habit like some of our other ex-posters to hijack threads on purpose to stop conversations and get a rise out of people.

I don’t believe that is true of TOWP. That was actually his first warning. I reviewed a lot of his posts this morning before I elevated to a warning. He has hijacked a few threads in reply to other posters committing a mild hijack. Not just a complete left turn like Magellan and some of the other semi-recent bannees.

We don’t generally moderate content. We do use modnotes and staff notes to try to change posting behaviors. So this time a warning as it didn’t appear modnotes were getting through to him to not hijack threads. I believe I suggested start a new thread or report the post he was reacting to.

It’s one of the reasons I put so many people on ignore. I don’t want to find myself inadvertently defending them. If my neighbor’s house is on fire, I’d help him put it out if I could. Unless he’s a fascist. In which case fuck 'em.

Let fascists carry their own water.

I’d help him put it out so that it doesn’t spread to my house.

Sometimes, fighting fascists demands we hazard ourselves to forestall a greater calamity. One of the lessons of WWII, I think.

That’s fair. Maybe be prepared in case it starts heading your way but otherwise stay put.

Isn’t the advocating of illegal acts, if not violent acts, at least a warnable offense here?

Here is the rule:

Unless he specifically encouraged posters to murder people, that doesn’t sound at all like a violation of the rule.

“I genuinely despise illegal aliens of all races equally.”

When called on it:

“Equally regardless of race, I said. Which is true: if you tell me about one, and omit mention of race, I’m going to despise them on a scale of 0-100 — and then, if you tell me their race, that’ll remain unchanged.”

Motherfucker’s the most obvious troll I’ve seen in awhile.

Are you guys really surprised when a known and proud pro-lynching advocate supports killing brown people to discourage immigration?

It wasn’t even close to advocating an illegal acts.

We don’t have rules against supporting unsavory/disgusting laws/government practices.

No, I just banned the most obvious troll in a while. Waldo is not an obvious troll. He just believes and supports things you and many others find abhorrent. There is a difference.

While not as satisfying as getting rid of TOWP, I think we are all safe in confirming they’re an evil fucker, even if they may not be a troll. So it’s not like he’s exactly winning anything other than a (negative) popularity contest.

I know what he believes is abhorrent–but also he’s trolling. Look at the two quotes in my previous post, and tell me that’s an honest poster. I remain on the fence about magellan, but Television Out With Pity is gleefully disingenuous.

I guess he does not meet the strict definition of “troll” that some folks use:

“Deliberately posting offensive crap that he does not actually believe, in order to get reactions from others.”

Instead, it’s possible that he’s deliberately posting offensive crap that he actually believes, in order to get reactions from others.

I happen to think both of these are trolling. It’s very hard to figure out someone’s genuine beliefs about offensive topics, so I just lump both of them together.