Good, because that’s what I was going for. That plus Full Metal Jacket. It took some massaging to work both in.
“Ducking stools” are an early example of autocorrect.
I keep seeing this along with, “He was never loved by his father,” and have been wondering at the source(s). Mary Trump’s first book, for sure, but are there any corroborating sources?
Corroborating source: Donald J. Trump, and his extreme sociopathic behaviour. This is not a normal human being. Not even close. The only other possible explanation is physiological brain damage, but that tends to create much more generalized symptoms and not these very specific sociopathic and narcissistic pathologies. He was clearly raised in a very unhealthy environment.
Or that’s just how he is. My brother and I were raised in the same environment by the same parents and we turned out almost opposite of each other. Sometimes it’s in a person’s nature to be who they are.
There could also be mental health issues that don’t need to be environmental in nature. Again, going back to my brother, some of his problems are due to extremely poor mental health that’s largely hereditary in nature… Combine that with drug use, extremely bad decisions, and a selfish personality where he thinks it’s his right to use people because he can, and you get a bad combination. It doesn’t have anything to do with how he was raised. (He was actually treated more gently than I was, since he was the “baby”.)
Did you know my second wife? Because you just described her word for word.
And she’s not a trumpist, she was and is as anti-trump as I am. Her problems crept up in other areas.
I hope your second wife wasn’t my brother.
This seems to me a very odd juxtaposition of contradictory statements. Your brother being treated more gently than you is surely part of his upbringing and his early environment, that could produce different emotional learning than you got. It’s a stereotype that a spoiled child grows up to feel entitled and to use other people if they don’t learn any better along the way (of course it doesn’t always happen that way, but it’s a very common idea).
Yes, the character and severity of mental illness can depend hugely on built-in factors that we don’t understand very well. That may be true of Trump as well as your brother. But to say that you and your brother had entirely the same “environment” is clearly untrue by your own description.
It is a response to the idea that being treated harshly by a parent, as Trump was, is the likeliest explanation for misbehavior. That’s what I replying to, after all.
No, it’s not. You are greatly exaggerating the difference. We lived in the same house, with the same people, exposed to the same culture, and had much of the same experiences. There were a few times that I got punished when my brother didn’t because I was a couple of years older but to say that constitutes a completely different environment is idiotic.
From what I remember from Mary Trump’s book, Donald was not harshly treated by his father, but Donald was the child who was most like him. Donald was essentially trained by Fred, but it was already in his nature. Fred was harsh with all the kids, but none of them turned out as sociopathic as Donald.
Or at least let me select pie along with another choice. 
Idk if anyone else has been following J-Z in the above-referenced Moonrise thread, but from about post #283 onward, J-Z is completely baffling in how he gets from A-B. His leaps of illogic and convoluted reasoning are mind-boggling. LHoD did a fine job responding to him (as did others).
My brother and sister and I were all raised by the same parent, but my brother was treated differently, simply due to gender. There was the running joke about going out at night. We girls were told to be home by 10 and in bed by 11. My brother was told to be in bed by 10 and home by 11. Ha Ha
Then there was the distribution of chores. I probably don’t need to detail how those were different.
My brother was always very different in regards to work ethic and obedience though and he did go to prison for awhile. My sister and I are too timid to jaywalk. The old Nature vs Nurture argument will always be at play.
Based on the latest comments in the IQ thread I’m pretty sure they’ve been here before.
+1 vote on that one. I can feel the felt through the screen
Surprise, surprise I was so insulated, coddled and sheltered and raised by the same parent as my sibs.
They have a completely different experience. I never felt my Daddy’s extreme ideas that they should excel in school, sports or anything they did. It seems he pushed really hard on all of them and lacked an ability to display pride or dole out, at least a compliment of a job well done. He just expected it.
With me He was a more encouraging and hands on champion. Always telling me how good I was doing.
There really wasn’t any overt jealousy from my sibs. But it was often said how spoiled and pampered Daddy treated me. How I got special treatment.
Yep. I deserved it🤭.
I’m special.
Anybody else think the parliamentary procedures around here are getting a little out of hand?
Seconded.
I’d weigh in but my dog ran off with my powdered wig and now I can’t find it anywhere.
I was told that I was a bit hostile to Human in an earlier post, probably guilty of that. Poster is way too familiar with this board for a new member.
I will just sit back and watch and not start a Pit poll of how long they last.