In 2 or 3 Days we’ll have actual evidence. Right now it’s all guesswork, except for tried and true formulae such as “lynch the lurker”. And even that isn’t 100% foolproof.
We’re never going to have a lynch that’s 100% guaranteed. And I think we do have evidence. We have the evidence of Biotop trying a little too much to look town with his Go Town. We have the evidence of Prof P maligning Sario based on some reverse gambler’s falacy(?). We have the evidence of IRConfused agreeing with him and accusing Dead Cat of defending Sario. I think any of those 3 would make a better D1 vote than a LTL vote.
I was teasing Sario about that back over on the Sign-In Thread. He’s playing because of that. I have no clue as to whether or not he’s town more than anybody else.
Lunchtime at the new mill…
It seems we don’t have much to go on. Texcat, I was being sort of jokey in my big blue post, playing off the “not tipping my hand” comment from last game on the first day. My mistake.
I wish we had some topic like the tie breaker to discuss. I can’t right now find a serious reason to suspect anyone, though I also don’t hold it against those who do.
Stealing my material, huh, Biotop? Hmmmm…
Low-posters:
Astral Rejection 3
WF Tomba 3
Suburban Plankton 3
Octarine 2
Precambrianmollusc 1
Mahaloth 1
Going after the ones who are actively and frequently posting (as our Moderator requested we do) is called “Lynch The Loud”. That works a whole lot less well than “lynch the lurker”.
Especially since the Prof is usually one of the Loudest. If I were in your shoes I would argue against that also.
The day hasbeen running for 7 hrs, a bit early for calling people lurkers don’t you think?
Ah, but seeing as being made a mafia member is rarer than being a townie, and gives you more power, scum would be more excited to play the game and show off their deception skillz. [HerculePoirot] Which leaves us with you, mon ami . . . [/HerculePoirot]
Coming at it from a different perspective, wouldn’t the Townies be the ones least likely to post a lot due to fear? If they happen to strike gold and start making a big deal about who’s who, they’ve targeted themselves to be killed that night. Meaning . . . yeah, I should probably stop talking, shouldn’t I . . .
Yeah, but what else is there to talk about?
Uh, go on over to Mafiascum.org and read up. Lurking is one of the best known scum tells.
I wasn’t Loud for my first game (a couple of months ago). But after the Loud Townsfolk were lynched repeatedly those of us remaining had to speak up as well.
For the most part, yes. I have found a workaround at work that seems to allow me into the message board, at least for now.
Any thoughts on the game, Mahaloth??
I don’t think we should hold it too much against anyone for not posting much on the weekend. However, come next week I hope and expect we will have much more participation.
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In this long Saga, at the end I say Havarti, you foul wolf mafia scum
Anyway, much rain here in not so sunny Houston but , none the less to the lynching
Prof P
Post 10 – setting up the narration of lynching low post counters
Post 11 – massive snuggles up to Biotop and Toomba – not that he actually knows they are scum or town or anything , well he might.
Post 12 – fluff – but helps his post count. Wouldn’t want to be a lurker or anything .
Post 15 – fluff , but keeping the whole – post count is critical in the first few hours of the game theme
Post 32 – no lynch?
Post 36 – the day starts !
Post 38 Sario votes for Prof P
Psot 49 – Apparently we are all agreed that his “ just getting the conversation started on lynch the lurker is agreed so , best get after it. Once again trtying to lead the narrative . Throws out a town vibe on Sario, surly he couldn’t be scum again. Prof P seams to know so
Post 51 – back with the lurkers
Post 59 – no wait the whole Sario thing is a joke
Psot 61 – LtL Tried and true??? Oh but it isn’t . in the same post.
Post 63 – Of course not
Post 66 - lynch lurkers because its fool proof , or not , depending how you read post 61. So we should lynch these guys, or if they turn up town, then obviously Lynch the lurker is not 100%, as the Prof told us in post 61. A very convenient, having it both ways, post. Also snuggles to the moderator , after all lynching lurkers is what he requested.
Post 71 – Argument to authority – mafiascum.org
Well
The lynch the lurker bandwagon set in stone best rule ever , only 8 hrs into the game is odd. I am sure the “ I was just getting discussion started defense , will come out, but that is not the crux of the issue.
In post 11 prof P come out with massive pro town support on Tomba to Biotop. Prof P has no basis for that , unless he knows Tomba is town, hence a huge snuggle. And why to Biotop, again seems sure he is town.
Vote Prof. Pepperwinkle
I’m not defending Sario and never said I was. I just don’t think he has done as much to arouse suspicion as some others. I don’t put him in either camp at the moment.
Agreed.
Only if you are playing for yourself rather than playing for the team. If you make a series of perceptive posts identifying one or more scum, and are then night killed, that’s potentially very helpful for town.
FTR, as I said in the sign up thread I’m only able to post at lunch and before/after work (and I’m often busy during those times), but I will do what I can.
I’m not too concerned about being night killed early myself - I’m going to assume there is a guardian in the game who will protect me if they think I need protecting, or if not then maybe my death will be useful to town anyway.
Nice job with the cheese jokes.
If you will kindly go back and look at the Sign-Up Thread, you’ll see I was teasing Sario about his previous scum roles then. I’ve been doing the same here and now, it’s just more obvious since the game is on. I’ve stopped that, and, again, don’t know if Sario is or isn’t Town.
Regarding Post 11: when last I saw Biotop he was leading Town to a major victory. I coulda used his judgment last game. Tomba was right on the money in his early guesses in the last game.
“Lynch the lurker” works better in the early part of the game than anything else I’ve found in my brief run, and has been recommended by more seasoned players as well, not to mention Mafiascum. Yes, it’s too early (being the weekend) to seriously apply it, but as we get closer to the first lynch date, I have every reason to hope others will pick it up and run with it as well.
Yeah, I post a lot. It’s my style.
Oh, and kudos on typing more understandably this go-round!
Lynch the loud is a bad way to start if we’re essentially poking around blind. At least they’re making a record. There are a few things I picked up from watching a game and playing the previous. If others care to disagree, we can discuss, but my takeaways (for the benefit of new and inexperienced) were:
[ul]
[li]Get on the record. Even if you’re about to be mis-lynched for a horrible cheese pun, get your thoughts on the record. It gives people something to review even after your death. Maybe you’ve seen something others haven’t. Creating a record is townie. And if you flip scum, at least we can consider that when viewing the record. Lurking doesn’t create a record and is therefore faintly scummy. And if lynch the lurker results in a mis-lynch, town loses somebody who wasn’t contributing substantially, which hurts less than losing a verbose townie who’s at least scum hunting.[/li][li]Post count is a rough cut of contribution. One robust post can be worth more than several check-ins or off-topic posts. See the “Anatomy of a clusterfuck” post from storyteller’s game a couple back for an example of something that carried the weight of several. (This is my own expansion on the previous point I picked up from others’ comments.)[/li]
[li]Scum tends to operate in a straight forward manner. There may be simple fake-outs and bluffs, but town tends to think they’re operating wheels within wheels within wheels. It’s possible, but it is frequently not the case.[/li]
[li]Town sometimes spends too much time trying to look town than to act town. Town needs to hunt scum and act townie. Looking townie should follow.[/li][/ul]
This is fantastic advice that everyone should remember.
Well, we all know how I feel. I tried to play my previous game as close to my town game as possible. I’m very much of a fan of slinging mud and seeing what sticks.
I don’t like this vote. It has zero chance beyond luck to actually catch scum.
Unless I’m just blind… where has Dead Cat defended Sario, besides just questioning your vote? I’m questioning it too, so color me guilty of “defending Sario” as well.
I believe you’re new, so I don’t necessarily find this evidence of a scum or town lean. In general mafia strategy, around 75% of the players in the game are town, and therefore teammates. I see in a lot of games, people are afraid to defend one another for fear of defending a scum and looking bad. I disagree - if a case is bad, it’s in town’s interest to call out that bad case, regardless of who it might be defending.
This, on the other hand, is a solid insight. It would be ideal for a scum Prof. Pepperwinkle to encourage “lynching the quiet” if he’s the loudest.
7 hours on a weekend. Very premature.
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