Trouble in Paradise (Mafia Game Thread)

As far as I can tell. It seemed to in the last two games.

I’d like to suggest you go and read over the last two games here to see why I’m so strong on “lynch the lurker”.

I agree that we should remember it, but I’ve seen many a wolf try to use this to get a good townie killed.

Yep. Generally, if you catch a breadcrumb, you should keep it to yourself and not point it out to scum. But in this case, I just think you’re wrong and that it’s not a breadcrumb.

:smack:

The Dope as a whole has always been against it, generally, though we do not have to be. I actually don’t mind seeing an extremely quiet player die on Day 1. I just feel it is unfair to dedicated players for a non-player to slide through. Yes, this might be a bit ironic coming from me, who was pretty quiet in the last game.

Again, I should be able to post from work during this game, though. I will update on here if I can not.

Thing is, many posters might be quiet on Day 1 just because there’s not much to add to the conversation. There’s only so much you can analyze when nothing’s happened yet. Well, that and making cheese puns.

Here is a thread some folks might like to read, now or during the Night when strategy is not allowed.

“Let’s improve how we play ‘Mafia’”

It goes over many of our theories of the game. It’s from 3 years ago.

Two things. First, I was commenting on Suburban Plankton, not you. It was SP who had the poor rationale for a vote.

Second off, you do know you haven’t voted for anyone, right?

Hmm. Is it scummy to forget that you haven’t voted for anyone?

It is honestly my very favorite part of the game. You’re not playing right if you don’t get a few votes thrown your way. Luckily for you, you’re off the hook!

This is a bad vote. You’re unlikely (outside of random chance) to catch scum with this vote, and you even preemptively mention how weak this vote is. Not only do you preemptively mention how weak this vote is, but you call it a “mislynch,” which would imply you know Precambrianmollusc is not scum.

I tend to think “slips” are usually poorly-phrased posts made by townies, but on the other hand I think a newbie is more likely to accidentally say something exactly like this as scum. My gut has me leaning towards the latter. This is a good place to leave my vote now.

UNVOTE
Vote snfaulkner.

I was somewhat leaning “yes,” but I’m very confused by his post. It feels overly defensive, so I was waiting to see his next response.

I would say no. However JAQ’ing off like this seems kinda… like filth trying to subtly sow the seeds of discourse, wolfie style:dubious:

I’m still outraged by the cheese travesties from earlier, so I’m not yet going to change my vote.

I was quoting Hooker Chemical when i said “mis-lynch”. If there was a “slip” as you say, then it was his/hers.

You know, that’s a fair rebuttal. In rereading, I skipped over the Hooker quote. I retract my vote, but I still think your vote is unlikely (outside of chance) to catch scum. I just no longer think it’s a good indicator of scummyness.

Unvote snfaulkner.

I’m trying to catch up on the game after a hellish day at work. Tomorrow doesn’t look much better but i hope I have some real time tomorrow evening to at least get some notes in order.

But I do want to get something off my chest that’s bothering me. Can we all please quit talking so much about what happened in the last two games? I have been guilty of this early on, and I plan to stop as of this post. What happened in the last two games might tell someone a tiny bit about a player’s style, but one or two games is a pretty small amount of data from which to really pluck useful information. A player’s style also has to be somewhat influenced by what is actually happening in a game, so “style” from only one or two games might easily be misleading.

This is a new game, and whatever occurred story-wise in the last games is irrelevant. That’s why Prof. Pepperwinkle’s chummy post bothered me so much early on. I don’t know you in this game, Prof. Pepperwinkle so why should I “mason-up” with you or anyone else? I’m not trying to be rude, but this is a new game. If we have four Scum then anyone I come into contact with has a 71% chance of being town and a 29% chance of being Scum. To start off I will trust everyone here 71%. Further trust or distrust will hopefully be earned.

That’s also why I agree with Astral Rejection and so dislike the vote of IRConfused against Sario. Who cares what role Sario had in the last game or even the last 10 games? It does not matter. If you are Town and are considering Sario, then judge him on THIS game please. Look for a reason to trust him or someone else less than 71% in THIS game.

[OOG]If this sounds cranky, sorry. It was a rough day at work and promises to be a rough few months entering into the holiday season. Not my favorite time of year.[/OOG]

Well, Biotop, I haven’t much else to talk about if I can’t compare people’s past styles to the new game.

I will, however, wait until later in the week to see who actually has been lurking the past week, since the weekends are always light in number of posts.

**For this week’s MMMP, I have a vote count! In the event that this is in any way incorrect, feel free to correct me and then reference rule 8 (not in that order).

Prof Pepperwinkle - 3 votes: (Sario 38)(Precambrianmollusc 76)(Dead Cat 100)
Dante G - 1 vote: (Suburban Plankton 41)
Biotop - 1 vote: (Texcat 50)
Sario - 1 vote: (IRConfused 55)
Astral Rejection - 1 vote: (WF Tomba 94)
Precambrianmollusc - 1 vote: (snfaulkner 96)

**

I want to thank everyone who has voted for me. It’s an honor just to be nominated.

On the subject of the previous games:
Statistically speaking, a given player is unlikely to be scum multiple games in a row, however it can happen as I myself proved. It is much more useful to look at play styles though, as Biotop pointed out, the data set is rather small.

My vote on Prof was meant mostly as a joke, but there seems to be some momentum building against him that I want to look at before I decide whether to leave my vote or change it.