I am having trouble wrapping my head around the fact that Magiver thinks that Trump’s projection is valid because he extended the hurricane’s path in a straight line from the official projection, completely ignoring the fact that all the official projections have the storm turning and going up the coast. Now admittedly I took one course called “weather” in college so I am infinitely more qualified to assess a hurricane path but it doesn’t take a genius to realize that a storm that travels straight in one direction over water will of necessity be affected by the topography of the land when it makes landfall and therefore should not be assumed to keep moving forward in a straight line. You know, that may be why meteorologists actually have degrees in the subject. So regardless of whether the official weather service had yet projected the storm’s course beyond Florida. Trump was completely unqualified to project the course further and the fact that every single prediction shows a turn to the North after landfall indicates that maybe the meteorologists know something that Trump and Magiver do not.
No he did not.
Trump tweeted on Sunday (Sep. 1) that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”
Then yesterday (Wednesday, Sep. 4), he showed a projected map from Aug. 29 (Thursday), with the Sharpie mark added, to try to justify his Sunday tweet.
Also yesterday (Wednesday, Sep. 4), he tweeted a “spaghetti” map from Aug. 28 (Wednesday) to try to justify his Sunday tweet.
By the time Trump tweeted on Sunday, forecasts no longer showed Alabama in the path. Either he completely made it up, or he was basing his tweet on 4-day old information. All this after canceling his trip to Poland so he could focus on this hurricane.
Big snip.
He’s completely unqualified to hold a Sharpie.
Or, as speculated in at least one of the Pit threads, really meant “the Bahamas” instead of “Alabama”.
Politico, within the past hour:
In short: yes. Yes he was.
CNN weighs in:
The most disturbing thing isn’t that Trump is lying, because, sad and reprehensible as it is, we’re all used to it by now. The most disturbing thing is that he’s been totally obsessed for the past three days about proving that he was right, and that the “fake news” – every last one of them, every last member of the media – are the ones who have been lying. Left to his own devices without any checks and balances, he would create a regime of Orwellian revisionism that not even Orwell could have imagined – all to celebrate his own greatness and infallibility.
I’m really concerned about the tendency of some Trump supporters–and Magiver is clearly one–to dismiss yet another indication that Trump is suffering from some kind of cognitive decline. If they really care about the guy, they should be worried about Trump for his own sake, not scrambling to patch together far-fetched defenses. I know Reagan had dementia, and I’m not arguing he was a good president, but Reagan had puppeteers. Trump does not.
This is clearly a situation that requires a 25th Amendment solution, or Trump’s resignation. The country has suffered enough.
Then he was negligent in not extending the line even further into Mississippi and Louisiana. Surely those states would be affected by rain and wind. Where should we draw the line?
Oh! How about where the NHC drew the line? Especially since it’s their map.
It worse than that. None of the models (the lines that actually have a symbol with them) show the hurricane hitting Alabama on the map he tweeted. It would be more obvious if he sent the original image instead of a doctored one.
That actually makes sense, especially if you factor auto-correct into it. Not just that, but he’d have an easy out by blaming it on his phone and if we bought that, he could use the same line for any of his tweets that get that much backlash.
Again, he projected one of many forecasts a fraction further in the same direction which is just a common sense way of looking at it.
It’s standard practice for leaders to stress the need to be prepared. this s a mountain out of a no-hill driven by a need to demonize the President.
Anybody with common sense could look at the projection and see a need for people in Alabama to be concerned.
If this was true then he wouldn’t have needed to correct the chart. But it’s not true, so he did correct the chart, because the unaltered chart showed that he was wrong.
The altered chart, on the other hand, shows that he was both wrong and a complete idiot.
Wow.
You still think he’s wearing clothes.
This is just a fucking stupid hill to die on.
And, AGAIN, the NHC forecast which he “projected” on was THREE DAYS OLD (issued on August 29) when he made his tweets on Sunday (September 1). By that time, the storm had moved, conditions had changed, and the NHC had repeatedly updated the forecast. As has been shown in several links in this thread, by Sunday morning, the NHC’s forecast storm track went nowhere near Alabama.
And Trump’s “double down” evidence, the “spaghetti map” which he shared, was a day older still than the original NHC forecast that he doctored (it was from August 28).
People in Alabama should rightfully have been at least somewhat concerned on August 29th, when the forecast DID say that the storm might head in their direction. By September 1, the storm was no longer going to be a concern to Alabamians, unless they were relying on Trump’s tweets for their hurricane preparedness.
You must be fucking pissed that the weather service released an immediate correction stating that Alabama didn’t need to be concerned. Fucking. Pissed. Right?
If that’s the case then why didn’t he show a real map with a path through Alabama, instead of faking it? Faking it is the lie.
Skills which Trump does not possess.
Even more so, because he promotes two opposing assertions without recognizing the inconsistency:
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The hurricanes I deal with are YUUUGGEE! The biggest hurricanes in history. No one has ever had hurricanes like mine. I have the best hurricanes.
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There is no such thing as climate change. There is no pattern of worsening weather extremes.