Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

No we don’t. Not unless we actually mean 72 hours.

Fortunately, not everyone else is following the (lack of) leadership of the White House. Unfortunately, that results in scattershot practices and very mixed results.

States, counties, and other localities that take this seriously are doing better, but without top-down strategies everyone’s borders leak like sieves.

Which is why the US is such a clusterf*ck with such inconsistent results.

A date which will go down in history as the day when Liberals began to believe in God and Republicans in Science.

It’s just so hard to understand why these people continue to debase themselves. What is it that Christie thought he was going to get out of kissing Trump’s ass once again? Some position in the administration that he didn’t get for four years? Well, now Trump’s given him something - a deadly virus and hospitalization.

My wife teaches in a residency program and would agree with you emphatically.

The right is, either through ignorance or a stubborn determination to overcome reality through will, sticking with the ‘a few days and one or two negative tests is plenty to prove I’m fine’ theory, as we see in Don Jr.'s tweet today:

“A few more days.” Of course that’s a recipe for Don Jr. to infect many hundreds of people, if it turns out two weeks from now that he’s positive for the virus.

The reality they’re hoping to overcome is that the incubation period can easily be two weeks. That’s fairly standard with this virus.

But they are clinging to the idea that they can pretend everything is normal and that will turn everything normal.

It won’t.

It is getting wearisome having to constantly have to fight the ignorance about this on the Dope. Thanks for pitching in DSeid.

Ditto, we don’t, unless we don’t want to keep our licenses.

This has been one of the aspects that has pissed me off mightily. Close contacts = 14 d quarantine from last exposure and a negative test does NOT change that. Being a public figure is not a license to put others at needless risk or to model reckless behaviors.

You know, the store I work at has had something like a half dozen staff come down with actual active covid over the past 6 months - but we have NOT turned into a cluster or superspreader event or anything of that sort. While there is no doubt some element of luck at work (hence, anyone get covid at all) I think the fact that

  • Those with covid are isolated and not permitted back until more than one negative test.
  • Those who are close contacts at work are quarantined for two full weeks.
  • Those isolated/quarantined are still provided with paychecks so they do not have financial incentives to cheat
  • Areas where those with covid and their contacts work are professionally deep cleaned
  • Masks are required and worn by everyone from top to bottom of the hierarchy
  • Hand sanitizer is everywhere
  • We’ve got people whose sole, full time job it is to travel the store all day every day cleaning often-touched surfaces from door handles to carts to touchscreens to anything else imaginable

All of those are reducing the viral load in the air and reducing, even if not eliminating, the risks for everyone. We can’t stop it, but we can keep it from exploding.

So… why can’t the highest levels of the government, with far more money and resources, get their act together at least that much?

I’ve been told that in Europe their version of “osteopath” is much closer to quack than the US version, which might be part of the ongoing issue with DO’s.

I’ve had MD’s as docs and DO’s as docs and from the perspective of a patient I can’t tell much difference between the two. I’ve had good experiences with DO’s.

Doesn’t fit into the message. This entire administration is all about trying to create their own reality. For a long time, it worked.

Arrogance.

Arrogance and a desperate hope that they can con voters into believing that the virus is No Big Deal, which means that the GOP response to it has been Super-Duper, which means that voters should vote them back into the offices they’ve disgraced.

Oh, and a little bit of ‘science is for losers’ stupidity, too.

I did a lot of work with an osteopathic teaching hospital. There’s no difference here in the US worth noting.

Apparently Rudy’ initial test was negative.

I don’t get it.

Nor do I.

Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon, I suspect.

What did you expect? They must be men without conviction.

There is no evidence that it’s sexually transmitted.

I must concur with DSeid and Psychobunny on this one.