Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

Ya know, the shadow cast by the Marine One helicopter was at the wrong angle for the time of day. Ye gods! It’s true, it’s all a fake! Gah! :exploding_head:

Including the super-spreader Rose Garden event. She’s just as culpable as he is. Who knows whom she’s spread it to?

You could note there are many similar situations in intensive medicine where dex and similar treatments have been somewhat controversial for years but are commonly used - such as suspected but unproven meningitis or (with less controversy) some types of spinal cord injury.

Cases with prominent people will receive more scrutiny and are more likely to result in more aggressive treatments. In this case, there is not much consensus, as far as I know, about when to start if one decides to use it. But there could be more consensus if use is likely - that earlier might be better. If you know more about this case than I do and are able to ethically divulge what you know, I am listening.

So let’s sedate trump and let the doctors tell the rest of the world the unvarnished truth.

To me this is the point: trump’s condition is more serious than public statements indicate.

First off, “allopath” isn’t a thing. It’s a bullshit word invented by bullshitters like homeopaths, naturopaths, and chiropractors so that they wouldn’t have to use embarrassing terminology like “real medical doctor”.

Second, medicine did start out in some sketchy places, but it doesn’t continue to call itself “Leechology” or “Humoristics” or anchor itself to any bullshit practices from its non-scientific days.

When I look at the sum total of what defines D.O. (less research, less academic exposure, less competitive for the top residencies, accepting less competitive candidates than medical schools)… for me, this all adds up to someone who is less than an M.D.

And it’s fine to have that. We have PA’s, we have nurse practitioners, we have all sort of allied health people picking up the slack for what doctors don’t really need to administer personally. I’m just not going to choose those folks for care that I want the highest expertise in.

Dear God in heaven! :pray:t3: Can y’all take the D.O./M.D. discussion someplace else?

Which falls into scenario one: he is getting aggressively treated even with contraindicated drugs that may hasten his demise. Personally, this seems less likely than the other alternative, (as others are noting), that he is more severe than they are letting on, but we are agreed that these are the two possibilities.

These drugs are not contraindicated unless you know something that I do not. We don’t agree that those are the only options. We don’t have specific details of this case. I have no reason to believe Trump is not getting expert and appropriate care. So I have nothing else to add. Please have a pleasant day.

Trump has left the building. He’s in a car, no info on where he’s going.

drive by waving for his supporters. the rode out, turned around, and rode back.

there was a twit that he would have a “surprise” for his patriotic supporters.

My wife, a major medical journal professional editor of many years, just explained it to me using exactly the same words. She also said that it may be easier to get into a DO school than into an MD school. Also that there are likely very accomplished DOs out there who are better than some MDs. However, a DO would have to come with the highest of recommendations from a trusted MD for her to recommend or see one.

/end hijack.

This is the gesture that lets them say “We told you he’d be out of the hospital before Monday.”

He may leave Walter Reed tomorrow, flat on his back, to a hastily prepared medical suite adjacent to the Oval Office, where he will continue lying flat on his back. (Emphasis on “lying”)

Or, tomorrow, his physicians will announce "We’ve had a minor unexpected hiccup, nothing to worry about, but he’ll be in here for another day or two.

All they know how to do is keep milking the news cycle. They’ll keep doing it up to the minute they can no longer keep him awake by shooting powerful psychotropic drugs straight into his ringpiece.

Is this for real right now? Just when you think it could not be any more of a circus, the head clown turns the fuckshow up to 11.

Yeah this story is emitting some serious “OJ in the white Bronco” vibes here.

It’s Dear Leader Kim Jong Un level of bullshit. Surreal.

Won’t work unless all of his White House sycophants are sedated as well.

You know sometimes people leave the hospital so they can die at home.

Sometimes cats run away so they can die… just wherever I guess.

That would be a shame, I don’t want him to die, I want him struggling for the breath to bleat out “I don’t concede, I want a do-over” after Biden crushes him on election night.

What part of “infectious, possibly fatal disease” does he not understand?
Did the agents in the car have to draw straws or what?

Fucking, self-centered shitpile.

If the Secret Service detail wasn’t resentful before …

“Get in the F’n car. I want to go wave at the troglodytes !!”