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I think that’s it. They believe that the constant reporting on the effects of climate change turns people off the use of fossil fuel and makes them more susceptible to the hoax of renewable energy.
Of course, not having reliable weather forecasts affects the farming industry the greatest, that is the local economy in rural areas were most of their proponents live.
Good point. Not sure how much farming depends on the NWS. Probably a LOT. But there may be other sources of information.
I use CAIC (Colorado Avalanche Information Center) for where I live. They are very good. I think non profit.
Not to worry, we’ll be selling the new Trump Almanac! It will tell you exactly what you want to hear about the weather for the entire year! Spring weather will be great for planting! Summer weather will be great for growing! Fall weather will be great for harvesting! You’ll have lots of rain, and lots of sun! Those egghead ‘scientists’ couldn’t give you any better news than that!
Election 2024: Certification disputes in states spark concerns | AP News
Maddow points out frightening truth about Trump’s lack of concern about votes - YouTube
trump believes the fix is in. election deniers have gotten into place in battleground states. then there are legislatures with large majorities that will throw certification.
They accurately report warming temperatures and major storms, and keep weather histories available so that people can see trends over time?
Ayup.
But a lot of them don’t get their weather forecasts direct from NOAA and might not realize until too late that the sources they do use rely on NOAA data.
That is frightening.
Emphasizing this post. Maddow made horrifying points.
There really aren’t. Everyone in the US who provides any sort of weather forecast at all is mostly just repackaging the NWS. I think Google adds a little of their own data in extra, but it’s still mostly NWS.
Yeah. But again: I don’t know how many of the people who use other sources realize this.
MUST-SEE: Pro-Trump election workers now set to PREVENT 2024 certification (youtube.com)
brian tyler cohen has a video on this. 70 plus election deniers across 6 key states. some states do have a dereliction of duty statute that they can use to get certification. most of the certifiers are part time appointment positions.
It’s one thing to talk tough about how you won’t certify an election if you think it was fraudulent, but it’s quite another to look at the voting numbers in front of you, that clearly show a Democrat win, and still refuse to certify the election, in the face of possible actual criminal charges.
The question is, are these people True Believers, who really think there was fraud, and really think they’ll catch the fraud the next time, or are they cynical operators, who know it’s all bullshit, and are willing to perjure themselves to give Trump the win?
I suspect that in the moment, some of the True Believer types, when they come face-to-face with the reality of the election they themselves have supervised, will have a crisis of faith in Trump, and do the right thing.
Attorney issues WARNING to officials who refuse to certify election results (youtube.com)
brian tyler cohen with marc elias discussing what can be done to get certifications. mr elias has and continues to have court cases regarding those who refuse to certify.
i would not bet on people seeing the light. some may balk if there is jail time, but others are so into the belief that they will go to prison.
It will be interesting to see if this is true.
Wouldn’t it be the other way around? I would think the True Believers would keep on believing just long enough to pull the proverbial trigger, while the cynical operators would not risk consequences to themselves for something they know isn’t true and benefits only someone else. They only said they’d come through for Trump to get something now and will not adhere to an unenforceable promise (if they even gave that much) when the time comes.
One thing I don’t understand: why are folks concluding this when Trump’s quote is about four years from now? I thought it was a statement about what he’d do if reelected, not about reelection itself?
Same topic as rocking_chair’s video link – from the Stanford Law & Policy Review (Stanford University): Certification and Non-Discretion: A Guide to Protecting the 2024 Election (PDF, 48 pages, free to access).
From the article’s abstract:
While efforts to impede [election] certification are not new, never before have they been deployed on such a large and coordinated scale. For this reason, little academic attention has been paid to the mechanics of state certification frameworks. This Article fills that gap to demonstrate why, and how, state certification frameworks can combat the ongoing threats against them. It begins by providing a detailed overview of how election certification works and how recent attacks on the process have targeted and disrupted certification using false claims of widespread election fraud. It then delves into the rich but often overlooked history of certification as a non-discretionary duty to demonstrate that those attacks flouted hundreds of years of well-established American legal history; recognizing that discretion created opportunities for crises and election fraud, early courts and legislatures purposefully shaped certification into a mandatory, non-discretionary duty. The Article concludes with a roadmap for election officials, candidates, and advocates to resolve future attacks on the certification process in eight key battleground states likely to play significant roles in the 2024 election cycle.
One of the authors of the Stanford article, Lauren Miller Karalunas, wrote a brief synopsis for the Brennan Center for Justice defiantly titled Election Denial Can’t Overcome Election Certification Protections. Lord, let’s hope she’s right.
Well, we’ve already seen some people in 2020 who believed in the Trump narrative that the election would be stolen, but when the day came, they ended up actually doing their job, even if they did drag their feet a bit. We also saw some of his fake electors bail on him when they learned how they’d been lied to about the role they’d signed up for.
The cynical operators would be the sort of people backing Project 2025. They’d know up front that this is nothing but a naked grab at power, damn the election. If the tide turns so that they see there’s no way their plan will work, they probably would jump ship. But if the election really does come down to a few votes here and there, they’ll take the shot. The gamble is if it works or not. Once Trump is in power, they’ll have zero risk, and their own people will be taking over large parts of the US government, which is what they want, and I’m sure they’ll judge that to be worth the gamble.
Except the prosecutions in Georgia, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan are all brought by state prosecutors.
That could equally happen after the 2024 election.