So he can blame Pence for anything that didn’t come out how he wanted it to. Like losing the election. It couldn’t possibly have been Trump’s fault! /s
There are 2 possible interpretations: one frightening, one stupid.
In 4 years we’ll be living in a Christian Nationalist paradise and elections will be cancelled. Frightening.
or…
In 4 years, Christians will have seen their political goals realized so they can go back to being apolitical and sit out the next election. Telling your base to stay home is stupid, and political suicide.
I don’t understand why people here continue to apply standard political logic to Trump.
Under standard political logic, Trump should be a representative of his base. Instead he’s a plutocrat who lives in a golden cage.
Under standard political logic, Trump should at least understand and identify with his base. Instead Trump clearly despises them, hates to be close to any of them, will talk to them only from a distant podium, and then sees how far he can manipulate them.
Under standard political logic, Trump should reach out to undecided voters to push him over 50%. Instead he speaks louder and louder to his base, assuming that as before people will vote for an authoritarian who doesn’t have to play politics.
Under standard political logic, Trump should have picked a VP to balance his ticket. Instead he chose someone who says even worse things about women than he does.
Under standard political logic, Trump’s previous failures should count against him. Instead they just make his base that much more anxious to re-elect him so he can triumph this time.
I could go on. And on. The rules don’t apply to Trump. He breaks all the norms. He lies and contradicts himself and people hear Truths. That’s the new political Alice-in-Wonderland “logic.” Everything must be seen through that filter.
I don’t think Trump is aware enough to realize that endorsing the latter is endorsing the former, what his non voter supporters are dog whistling dog foghorning to everyone that can hear them. His ‘Project 2025? What’s that? I have no idea what that is!’ bullshit ‘plausible deniability’ ain’t working on everyone.
Hey, Trump supporters, good news! If you think voting is so terrible, you don’t even need to wait four years. You can just not vote, right now!
I hope you self identifying Christians like worshiping.
Your Antichrist is staring you in the face.
He’ll require you to do things that are horrifying.
Worshipping that idiot will be the end of your freedom of religion.
If it sounds like a cult, smells like a cult, looks like a cult…it’s a cult. Yep.
Trump added swamp creatures.
It’s actually a combination and yes 1 flows from 2 but in a different sense as a recent poster attempted to …explain?.. that by the end of his term all the Good and Right Ways will be restored and oh sure, there will be elections because the Constitution says so but, you will no longer need to vote on the Christian-values issues because THOSE will have been settled permanently.
Remember, these so-called Christians look forward to a Heavenly Kingdom where you will be free from all evil, implicitly because it will be impossible to sin.
ISTM the conditions on the ground have nothing to do with their perceptions. When Trump was president, everything was perfect. As soon as he wasn’t, the country turned into a godless hellscape. And it must be true because they all say so.
They sure do. They see Trump as the Anti-Christ, the harbinger of the Biblical Apocalypse (which has been delayed more times than the Mariners), and a pliable Useful Buffoon who will try to enact their desires by executive fiat as long as someone keeps whispering in his ear before he gets distracted. Unfortunately for them, he is less focused than a broken telescope, which is why Project 2025 sets out a plan to delegate executive authority (real and supposed) to layers of political appointees who don’t wander off in the middle of sentence into a forest of prepositions and adverbs intended to be insults but are mostly incoherent jabber.
I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t even known Shinola. If it doesn’t come in a bucket or a swimsuit, and he can’t use it to rile up people looking for recreational outrage about migrant armies of fraudulent voters stealing all of our good jobs and raping all of our wives and daughters, it does not exist in his mental model of the world.
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Worse, I’m very aware of Christians that hold that once you are Saved it is impossible for you to sin, no Heavenly Kingdom required.
And we needn’t go into those Christians that hold that if He, God not Trump, requires you to do things that are horrifying (See: The genocide stories in the Old Testament), the only sin is not doing God’s will.
I’ll ask you directly then, do you think it would be better for the country if Trump wins? Yes or no?
Because if Trump wins, most government institutions, excluding perhaps the Supreme Court, will not sit idly by and watch him dismantle democracy in America. For example, his declaring a state of emergency in order to stop the 2028 presidential election and keep himself in office. I think there would be a civil war that he would be on the losing side of. Short of something that dramatic, whatever undemocratic thing he does by executive order can be undone by the next president.
But if he loses, there are millions of brainwashed armed people who will believe it was a rigged election. I believe there will be coordinated rioting in the streets throughout the country, which will ultimately be put down by state and federal militia, and which will lead to mass arrests and incarcerations and perhaps the breakdown of civil society as we now know it. Both scenarios are bad, I’m just not sure which one is worse, and don’t really want to find out.
A government institution ignoring a President declaring a state of emergency, your specific example not withstanding, would be the dismantling of democratic rule in America.
Yes, that’s the most charitable interpretation of Trump’s blather, and of course, it’s completely stupid. What “changes” could he make in only four years that would be completely invulnerable to ever being reversed by a subsequent Democratic administration?
Constitutional changes are notoriously difficult, and would take far longer than four years, in any realistic scenario. And even then, they could be reversed in the same manner. Legislation would be both easier to implement, and easier to overturn. In either case, only an idiot would believe this is what Trump meant.
The only two “permanent” “solutions” I can imagine are either, Democracy as we know it is destroyed in some manner, or the people who would vote against the Trump agenda are destroyed.
I think we can all agree that neither of those “solutions” is at all desirable to anyone who isn’t an anti-American fascist.
How many Supreme Court vacancies will come up during the next four-year term?
If Trump wins, at least two will step down. (You can guess which two.)
In 2020, we saw that there were already some people in government institutions that were willing to help him overturn the election. The only reason that didn’t work was because there weren’t enough of them in the right jobs to pull it off. ‘Fixing’ this is what Project 2025 is all about.
From Day 1, Trump and his team will be identifying people in government who aren’t sufficiently loyal to Trump the man, and then getting rid of them. Their replacements will be fully vetted on the one factor that matters: Will they go along with the plan?
Anyone who pushes back at any level will be fired. Sure, you’re “not allowed” to do that to government workers, but that’s where the compliant Supreme Court comes into it. Firing government workers is clearly an “official act”, and so Trump can fire anyone he wants, even if that firing violates the law. The first case where someone sues to get their job back will be fast-tracked to the SC, “in the interests of national security”, and the SC will make it clear that Trump can fire anyone he wants. At that point, you either go along with the plan, or you’re fired.
Four years of that, and those government institutions you’re hoping will save you will be entirely filled with sycophants or cowards. They will not save you.
And can he install, oh, say, a couple of thirtysomething replacements to lifetime seats, such that the audience he was addressing will maybe have died off before those seats again come up for possible flipping?
Even that isn’t permanent. They will at least eventually die, and there are mechanisms, both legal and otherwise, to remove them from the court.