Trump: Peace Candidate?

Which political faction do you think Hillary Clinton would like to see running North Korea? Probably not Kim Jong Ill-In-The-Head, right? Does this mean that Clinton is going to run an assassination gambit there, or…?

Or, you know, what Johnny Ace said. This is pure paranoia, with absolutely no basis in reality.

John Kasich suggested pursuing regime change in North Korea, Clinton and him run in the same policy circles, so it isn’t too far fetched. St. Claire has cited the case of Boris Yeltsin. Clinton is an ideologue and has compared Putin to Hitler. I would consider the chance of Clinton attempting regime change in Russia very likely.

It’s not paranoia when her husband 's campaign advisers served as consultants for the American-backed candidates in the most critical election in recent Russian history, or when outfits like the National Endowment for Democracy exist with plenty of government funding.

There are lots of ways to undermine a regime that you don’t like that stop short of assassination attempts, and during the Cold War, the United States became quite expert in using all of them.

Well, Russia has tougher laws against organizations like that then they used to, so there’s that.

Trump is not a dove, per se (or a particularly good candidate), but, yes, I think getting rid of NATO would be a good idea, and might well make the world more peaceful. If the Ukraine was in NATO, we might be at war with Russia right now.

Foreign aid is always painted as ‘democracy promotion.’ This is classic conspiracy theory stuff. No real evidence, and lots of unfounded assumptions.

Some of the same campaign consultants worked on the Yeltsin and Clinton campaigns. Do you really think they had nothing to do with each other (specifically, that the Clinton Administration didn’t encourage them to go to Russia and help keep Zyuganov out of power?)

Do you really have any hard facts to back that up? Or just more innuendo?

I have no hard evidence that the Clinton Administration sent money or personnel to the Yeltsin election campaign, no. I do know that the American political and media establishment was, in the main, extremely pro-Yeltsin and anti-Zyuganov (some media outfit went to the extent of saying Yeltsin would have been morally justified in cheating in order to prevent the Communists from winning), so I consider it more likely than not that the Clinton administration intervened in some way or another.

In any case, there is plenty of evidence that the United States government, including the Clinton and Obama regimes, has funded and continued to fund opposition activists and organizations in a number of countries, including Russia, largely through the NED. Here’s the list of NED-funded projects in Russia as of 2014 (Russia banned them the following year).

http://www.ned.org/region/eurasia/russia-2014/

Yeah, the National Endowment for Democracy is a government agency that plots coups. Next we will hear that PBS brainwashes children with pro-oil propaganda, due to all those sponsorships from Exxon and whatnot.

Have you ever heard even one word from Big Bird criticizing Big Oil or the military-industrial complex?

The other term for her job is “career diplomat.”

or “exposed coup plotter”

Yeah, I heard that on RT TV also.

I didn’t say they plotted coups, I said they had ‘regime change’ as one of their goals. There are lots of ways to accomplish regime change, after all. Most of my criticisms of the NED are based on work that they explicitly boast about themselves. Here are a few examples:

Responding to this kind of nonsense (that the National Endowment for Democracy is sorta like the CIA) is like trying to debunk the X Files movie in which FEMA was the real power behind the American government.

If one has had any interactions at all with either group, you’d know in a second that it just ain’t true.

Tinfoil hat time, folks.

Address the Nuland call.

If there had been no Nuland call, you would be saying something like “it’s not like we have a taped conversation of Nuland plotting the coup.”

We do have such a piece of evidence. Stratfor has called the coup “the most blatant in history”. Only the hardcore American Patriots and propaganda guzzlers believe it wasn’t a coup.

Big Bird is on the record of not speaking about issues like that.

He doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers:smiley: