We aren’t just talking about back in the '60’s or '70’s when things like this may or may not have been accepted- I don’t know; I wasn’t there. It’s not like that now, where men just grab women by the crotch or kiss them with no implied permission and wait to see what happens.
Today, the statement that if you are assaulted and don’t report it you’re ok with it is naive at best. Just because you don’t know of anyone who reported it to the authorities, doesn’t mean they were ok with it. Maybe they did express outrage to him, but he’d never admit that. Trump is a powerful man, and women don’t always report when someone in a position of fame or authority does something inappropriate.
That does not make it OK.
When I said things like that were common, I was talking about the language. Trust me, walking up to a girl or woman and grabbing her crotch was just as verboten then as it is now. (Though it wouldn’t have been attended by all the political b.s. and hysterics that would accompany such an action today.) The woman would have slapped the guy’s face, and maybe a brother or boyfriend would have kicked his ass, and that would have been the end of it. And believe it or not, the woman would have carried on in her life with a sense of having rightfully put the guy in his place rather than convinced of her own victimhood.
These two sentences contradict each other.
You may be surprised to learn that in 2016 sexual assault is a crime, and people who commit it are rightly put in prison.
Oh, the old “if she didn’t fight it that means she wanted it.” Criminy, this is still coming up?
I think people are taking Trump’s comment, grab her by the P way to literally.
I’m not aware of any sane or rational guy that would walk up to a lady and do that. That’s sexual predator type behavior. Not horny rich guy.
Imho Trump was referring to a consensual make out session. Getting to Third base isn’t it? Whatever it’s called these days.
What he said is vulgar and offensive. I really don’t think he was implying sexual assault. He’s much too vulnerable to blackmail to do something that stupid. If he was assaulting women it would have hit the news many years ago.
It has. Many times. He is currently being sued for sexual assault by multiple women, and has settled several such suits in the past. His ex-wife accused him of rape.
Rich men who do this just pay off the women. See, e.g., Bill Cosby.
By the way, even Trump’s surrogates aren’t denying that the comments describe sexual assault.
:rolleyes:
Now, why we did not hear about it earlier? Because indeed Trump had ways to be invulnerable.
The man is running for President of the U.S. and should have a much higher level of class and respect for the people he represents than we are repeatedly hearing from Trump.
I’m not sure what you mean by “too literally” since he said he actually did this. Whether he did or not, he said he did and implied it was OK. So yes, he went well past just implying sexual assault. He admitted having done it without consent.
“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”
“Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
He also agreed that his own daughter, who is his strongest ally in this campaign, is a piece of ass.
I can’t claim to understand Trump. I don’t think his own kids fully understand him.
His loudmouth has destroyed any chance of winning the election.
I wanted to believe he was all big mouth and said stupid stuff. But if he did grab women then he’ll be in court for awhile over those other cases.
I am so furious with Trump that I forgot to address the initial question.
IMHO, it’s likely Bush will lose this job, which I was surprised he got in the first place. He’s never seemed smart or professional enough for a major network program.
I don’t watch Access Hollywood so I haven’t seen a lot of him but when I have heard him talk it’s not been stellar:
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[li]Last year he attacked Kelly Osborne over the brouhaha about Zendaya’s dreadlocks, when he could and should have stayed out of the public discussion.[/li][li]At the Olympics, he defended Ryan Lochte’s behavior.[/li][li]He reportedly pissed off Jeremy Piven by asking him repeatedly whether he had met Angelina Jolie’s or Tom Cruise’s babies just because he lived in Malibu.[/li][/ul]
He has always struck me as a shallow frat boy who wants to look cool, and this latest instance certainly didn’t change my mind. Today can do better.
I’ll admit this isn’t quite the same thing, but any of you guys wanna hear Obama speaking of ribs and pussy?
I note that as is the case with many men, the word pussy flows pretty easily from his lips. I suspect this isn’t the first time he’s used it.
And we know he has no qualms about speaking it in public. At least Trump had the decency to think his use of the word was off the record. ![]()
Oh, really? You think Obama doing a public reading at a public library is a little different from Trump celebrating his sexual assaults?
Could you point out the differences? It’s a little unclear to me.
I can see you are also never getting tired of getting burned by sources that spinned the words of Obama and qiuoted out of context. It is indeed not the same thing, because it is mostly a false item. It was false that Obama made it up, it was true that he was reading about what some other writer descrived a conversation that took place with a third party.
And once again: nowhere close to Obama claiming to support what the writer was talking about what a third party said. And the pussy word was not even used in the context of boasting about sexual assault.
Are you saying that a reading from a book is the same thing as bragging about committing sexual assault?
ribs and pussy? wow throw in a 40 and a blunt and that’s a Saturday night in the hood behind mine …
tho for some reason I think the rock and the prez sound alike and would think its amusing for wither of them to say that because it wouldnt fit with the way they speak …
But mr bush looks like a cross between conan o brien and afred l e newman … and just as about as much combined intelligence
Sheesh, even when you say it’s not the same thing you get lambasted because it’s not the same thing. Good ol’ Dope, some things never change.
Not just not the same thing, it’s entirely and utterly irrelevant. Not even apples and oranges – more like apples and Waco, TX. Why did you bring it up?
CNN is reporting that Billy Bush will not be at work tomorrow morning.