One can also only imagine how his father was allowed to come here. That vaunted vetting process did a great job once again.
Well, the shooter was what? 29 years old? And born in New York City. So I imagine his parents have been here since the 1980s? My wife is now in the process of obtaining an Immigration Visa to the US. She knows other Thais who went through it 20 years ago, before 9/11, and they all say it was much, much easier back then.
Could have also been our shortsightedness getting the better of us. “He opposed the Soviets? He’s our man then!”
That conclusion allows oneself to blame The Other (of some kind) for being the enemies of all that We are. It lets us take the easy, self-righteous approach. It is a very useful avoidance strategy.
To whatever degree, however, he was one of Us, acting in a way We have fostered, it makes any response difficult and nuanced. It requires us to fix our own act, and who wants to do that?
Looking past the date issue there …
Yes, we need to stop all Muslims coming in until we figure out what’s going on here.
Wait. Some of the Trumpists are saying
“Hooray! God has given those faggots what they deserved.” while other Trumpists are saying
*“Woe is us, wink-wink. Obama has helped the Enemy kill Americans.”*Does this represent a split in the Trumpist camp? Or, like the White Queen through the Looking-glass, are these Schrödinger’s Trumpists who are able to believe contradictory ideas simultaneously?
No, we just need to have a better vetting process. Start with asking them how they feel about equal rights for women and tolerance for gays.
If Groucho was still with us, he’d say that’s the most ridiculous thing he’s ever heard. Sure, let’s make a punch list of approved American values and see if the prospective visitors and immigrants can parrot the list. No way would they figure out what the “right” answers were and just say them to get through the gate. Couldn’t happen!
It really is disgraceful the way Republicans are trying to exploit a tragic event for political gain, despite being the party in charge when the worst terror event in US history occurred.
There is an interview process. Any questions can be answered with what the interviewer wants to hear if the person is intelligent and sane. That at least eliminates the nutjobs.
Hey, let’s just ask them to name the teams in the American League East. That way we only get those who want to become real Americans.
Apparently Europeans aren’t asking, judging by the rape epidemic.
You’ve been reading Alex Jones again, haven’t you?
And the debunked “no-go” zones lurches to life again.
Don’t know about the no-go zones, but the mass attack happened.
Its simple. If a person thinks any of the following:
-thinks gays should be put to death for being gay
-thinks women should be forced into a burka
-thinks Israel shouldn’t exist (sorry anti-Zionists, but hating Israel is a common characteristic of Islamist extremists)
-thinks converting away from Islam should be a crime
-thinks poking fun at Muhammed/Islam should be a crime
-thinks 9/11 was “chickens coming home to roost” or somehow the US’ direct fault
the person has no business immigrating to the United States, ever.
edit; Bill Nelson has joined Joe Manchin as Dems who oppose Obama’s (and sadly for now, Hillary’s) not using the term “Islamic” when describing this sick evil.
And of course people can just tell the interviewer what he or she wants to hear, but that would involve first knowing what Western cultures believe about such things. A lot of these radicals aren’t the thinking types. We can’t stop all of them that way, but we can stop some of the nutcases and neanderthals. A simple question about women probably would have stopped half of the Cologne rapists.
immigration officials could investigate Facebook and Twitter pages of new entrants, do a Google search to see if they have any blogs or ever wrote for a newspaper, etc.
It wasn’t a mass attack, it was a number of smaller groups on New Year’s Eve.
While it’s a problem, it’s not a rape epidemic sweeping across Europe.
BBC
You people with your, “ask them their opinion on burkhas” and “just look at their Facebook page,” are so frigging simplistic in your thinking it’s laughable. Do you really think changing guidelines to include stupid shit like that would solve anything? Chrissakes, anyone snagged up by that would have been too stupid too pull anything off include the first place.
We’re hovering awful close too, “just send in paratroopers with motorcycles” territory…
Right, 'cause if they’re in favor of an abomination like the Designated Hitter, they clearly wish the USA harm.
What?
Hillary just saved her prospects!
THANK YOU.