Two new elements named

It’s official: 114 is Flerovium, and 116 is Livermorium.

Not that any of us will ever see the stuff, but it’s still kinda cool. Anyone know what’s up with 115?

Great, that’s just more shit that I have to dust.

Quoth the IUPAC …Livermore!

It looks like 115 was first synthesized a few years after either 114 or 116, so I guess its official naming is a few years off.

Has it gotten to the point where the IUPAC is now stealing symbols from Adobe? :slight_smile:

Who discovered Flerovium? Professor Frink?

Is there any scientific point in making these new elements any more? So far as I can tell, we have got way past the stage where any of these elements are of any conceivable use, and also past the point where making them tells us anything new of any significance about physics or any other aspect of the natural world. It seems like money (and expertise) down the drain, just to stoke egos and a passion for stamp collecting. Mundane and pointless indeed.

Couldn’t we just start naming elements before they’re created? The next thing in line could be called Waitforitium, or just honor some guys for other things they’ve done with Newtonium and Farnsworthium. You could sell atomic names the way people sell star names, you can have an element called Johmsmithium. Or just add cultural media names like Unobtanium and Upsidaisium.

This might seem like a silly questions, but what’s the significance of the -ium in element names? Is it latin?

Well, I think there might be a scientific and practical point in finding an island of stability - a string of elements in the periodic table that are more long-lived than the ones we’re making now.

They do. We had unnilpentium (dubnium), unnilhexium (seaborgium), unnilseptium (bohrium), and unniloctium (hassium).

Not exactly. Those are temporary names and they’re the equivalent of 105ium, 106ium, 107ium and so on.

For lots of elementary goodness, I highly recommend reading The Disappearing Spoon.

If Frink discovered anything, wouldn’t it have to be called Glavinium? :smiley:

Oh great, more to memorize.

And more work for Tom Lehrer.

No really, I mean it. Fight my ignorance, g.d. it!

Yes, it’s Latin. It comes from the names of metals and I think it just became tradition at some point.

Here ya go-

Info says it’s a metallic element suffix, but it’s also in Helium (from Helios, meaning sun) which of course isn’t a metal, tellurium, and germanium, which are metalloids. Sites I looked at say selenium’s a nonmetal with borderline metalloid properties.

With the preceding exceptions, all elements ending in -ium are metals.

Not all of them, of course. Americans call the light metal aluminum, but the British, with an (arguably) foolish love of consistency, call this aluminium. If you want to annoy them, ask them why they don’t say platinium.

Besides, there are plenty of elements that end in neither -ium or -umNickel, Cobalt, Gold….