I’m so happy that your cite comes from the Simple English Wikipedia. Beyond perfect. slow clap 
Is it really so hard for you to believe that a kid might actually enjoy a threesome with two hot teachers?
Are you unaware of the number one male fantasy?
Stop trying to project your femininity on men. We’re not like you.
Venus/Mars and all that.
Yup. All this “High five, young dude! You scored with two hot teachers! Epic win!” talk really minimizes and trivializes men’s sexuality. It just perpetuates the idea that “real men bone everything”, which is just the mirror image of “nice girls don’t get horny” stereotype. It’s almost a reverse slut-shaming.
Sure, this kid is bragging about having sex with these two women. But he’s sixteen. His brain is literally not done yet. He may be okay from this, or he may have problems relating to sex down the line, from this. We don’t know, and obviously won’t know until then; but to shrug off this rape - and legally, that’s what this is; he was too young to give consent in these circumstances, so that’s statutory rape - as “Hey, boys will be boys”, is to reduce his sexuality to a cardboard stereotype.
And as has been pointed out above, the real issue here is power and authority. When one (or in this case, two) participants in a sexual relationship have power over the third, the potential for abuse is extremely high. That’s true no matter the ages or genders of the people involved. That’s why most companies have rules against managers dating their employees; that’s why what Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky’s relationship was wrong, no matter if both consented. And that’s why these two teachers committed a crime with this boy, regardless of how it did or did not affect him.
And for the record, I’m a man, and, many many years ago, I was a sixteen year-old boy, as well. A threesome with two hot blondes would have been a fantasy (except my idea of kinky sex at that age was leaving the lights on; it never even occurred to me that adults got up to such kinky shenanigans :eek:). But I wasn’t ready for sex at that stage of my life; I’m not even sure I was ready for it when I lost my virginity at eighteen. Male sexuality is no less complex, confusing, and nerve-wracking than female sexuality.
I have to think this ‘power relationship & sex = wrong’ business has to break down when it comes to people like the President. Bill Clinton had power over literally every person in America, and a good many outside it. He could literally drop a bomb on someone if he felt like. By that logic he couldn’t have sex with anyone, except maybe his wife, until he was out of office.
Many women have rape fantasies. Do you go into threads talking about rape and say, “Oh yeah, that girl got exactly what every woman dreams of! Wooo!” Because I’m guessing you can tell the difference between fantasy and reality most of the time.
I find it quite amusing how delicate some of you think 16yo’s are.
I think 16 year olds are human beings. Human beings are delicate and sturdy and smart and stupid and healthy and damaged, often all at the same time.
But Lewinsky was a professional subordinate, right? To me there’s still a big difference between the President screwing a professional subordinate and the President screwing someone he picked up, say, at a bar.
I don’t find it hard to believe at all that a kid might enjoy that.
I find it hard to believe that all kids would likely enjoy it and therefore the default assumption should be that it’s a good thing.
I find it hard to believe that all 16 year olds are exactly the same.
Amen to that.
I just don’t get why you don’t think a typical 16yo could be sturdy, stupid and healthy in this particular scenario. Your default position seems to be “stupid and damaged.”
No, my default position is that none of us know how this will impact this person, and that we should not try to tell him how he feels about it now or how it will impact him in the future. He may be (and I definitely hope he is) perfectly okay with it and it may only impact him to the extent that he has a shocking story to keep from his grandkids. On the other hand, it may impact him in a serious and significant way, and that doesn’t mean he’s not a real boy or he’s something laughable or pathetic or less than or feminine. That’s what I’m objecting to—the idea that if some middle-aged men on the internet think it sounds like a hot fantasy, then a 16 year old boy isn’t allowed to think it’s a not entirely satisfactory reality.
I doubt this kid is a member of this board, so anything that gets said here is irrelevant. And even if he were in on this thread, unless I missed it, nobody here is telling him how he’s supposed to feel.
The only thing that’s being said is “Yep, I’d be beside myself with glee if that were me.” And since so many of us men are saying that, it’s easy to make the assumption, that’s how that kid feels too. I mean, with the bragging and all.
And I’m pretty sure you’d be hard pressed to find guys on this board that would shame this kid for feeling violated from a teacher in this way. Hot or no.
Do you have any evidence he wouldn’t be an outlier?
The simplest explanation here (including given that he was bragging about it) seems to be that the boy in question was delighted to have his brains screwed out by two teachers at the same time. As I’d think most guys would, at 16.
You have a 16-year old, don’t you? Would you really be OK with him having a threesome with two teachers whom he would thereafter have to see every day at school for the next several years?
Age of consent.
Power dynamic relating to consent.
Not sure if Belzer & Ice-T will ever get around to sweating the suspects, but they should.
Yeah, actually, you kinda are. All this “Whoo hoo! Way to go, young bro!” is reinforcing that notion that what happened is not only perfectly okay, but admirable. Think after all the dude-you-ROCK comments he’s gotten, he would feel comfortable saying “Actually, it was kinda weird and I’m not sure I liked it?”
I would hope no one on this board would shame any victim of a sex crime.
Exactly. Well said, jsgoddess.
What was that immortal line from Tea and Sympathy? “Years from now, when you talk of this - and you will - please don’t leave out how you came on my tits and made her lick it off.”
Seriously, if my 17 year old daughter had been double-teamed by two male teachers, Blood Atonement might cross my mind (and then everyone would say that was my repressed incestuous jealousy, of course).
If my 17 year old son were this kid, I’d still be upset. The trope of 1920’s George Babbitt taking his son to the whore house for his first time dies hard, but in reality sex isn’t just Pop Warner Football. His character development is my responsibility. I’d hope his sexuality is directed toward expressing love on a level that goes beyond words and actions, and is appropriate *only after *he’s used those words and actions.
So yeah, I’d be pretty mad at these two skanks.
Well, right.
So what’s everyone arguing about? The teachers got fired, they got charged with felony carnal knowledge whatever-the-fuck, which is bad but not as serious as statutory rape (I think - right?). People gonna sex. Sometimes there are consequences.
First, the fist-pumping and the pooh poohing of any concern is telling him how he should feel. You’ve made it very clear that you think having any concern is “feminizing” and you sneer at the idea of it.
Second, the bragging doesn’t mean that it was all swell. Kids brag about things sometimes as a way to hide pain as well as a way to get applause. It can be a mixture of many things, including a way to get pressure from these teachers to stop without him having to lose face in front of his macho bros for not wanting to keep banging the hot chicks.
Third, reread this thread, with the notion that the person reading it is a boy who feels violated. Having any sort of bad reaction, according to posters here, makes him an “outlier.” Male sexuality, we’re told in here, is perfectly okay with this. What does that leave? He’s a girl, or he’s weird, or he’s lame, or he’s broken, or he’s gay. It’s all about you wanting to celebrate a hot fantasy, not about him or boys like him who may be celebrating or may be suffering or may be doing both.
And finally, the fact that he’s not on this board doesn’t mean he’s not on the internet. Thousands or millions of older men are reveling in this, like it somehow reflects well on them that some boy scored with two women at a time. This same triumphant dick waving is happening all over the place. If you think he hasn’t seen it, you’re crazy.
Good thing you’re here to tell Shakes et. al. how they should feel.
Wow, you’re bad at this. At some point, can’t you take a class or something?