Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: What's going on?

Amazingly, the proliferation of cell phone cameras has made all the UFOs and aliens go into hiding.

As for “It’s not stopped previous presidents blabbing about having a Stealth aircraft before the F-117 was introduced in the late 80’s.” that is really a good point for this not being extraterrestrial, by now someone would had blabbed on that.

And that takes us to one overall point: Decades of looking at these phenomena end up being disappointing in the end as nothing new comes out from it, if no good explanations, we also do not get aliens nor time travelers.

It is a lot like the Tim Minchin rule:

“Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be… not magic.”

Nor aliens…

Well, the accounts do not really tally. Fravor’s account describes something relatively nearby, while the FLIR clip shows something tens of kilometres away. And the radar accounts describe traces that descend from 80,000 feet to sea-level, which is nothing like Fravour’s sighting, and nothing like the FLIR clip.

So we basically have three unrelated accounts. Note as well that the radar returns were reported on several days, so were likely to be part of an ongoing phenomenon that was not related to the other sightings.

I recommend this short video by Mick West. He has also produced much longer ones- but the results are the same; these clips can be explained by mundane objects.

Remember when that meteorite fell in Russia, it was recorded by a score of cameras. None seem to catch these things.

It’s all bullshit until I can kick the tires of one of the UFOs.

…or dissect an alien body, or have a beer with BigFoot.

Dashboard cameras have a particularly good chance of capturing a UFO, if they exist. Even better are the all-sky meteor cams that record the sky all night.
Nothing.

Hey, this was about aliens. If you think BigFoot isn’t real you’ll need a whole new thread.

That’s a completely wrong synopsis, they initially tracked them coming down from 80,000ft, Fravour and co were on a training exercise and then they were directed to the area to investigate the anomaly.

The UAP then whizzed around Fravors aircraft, they eventually went back to the carrier, and another team was sent out as they were tracked on radar again.

I’ve done the latter. They’re partial to porters.

We obviously have Jews In Space. My experience modding a once-prominent paranormal-conspiracy-UFO forum showed that all Western conspiracy theories eventually blame Jews. Expect UFO images to resolve to 6-pointed stars, at least in some imaginations.

Bingo!

Bingo!

Have you ever handled film or worked a movie camera? Photo-floaters exist. Shutter, aperture, and lens artifacts intrude. Dust invades and wriggles. I especially distrust military small-format optical systems that aren’t adequately maintained.

I have witnessed uncanny events revealed to be mundane. I have recorded real and faked images of such events. I know alien-abduction re-enactors; they’re more fun than Civil War or Sherlock costume freaks. I have viewed Area 51’s sky filled with odd lights - because gear gets test-flown there. I built an alien beacon; didn’t work AFAIK although I suspect a certain neighbor… :eek:

If advanced aliens are around, they’re too clever or invisible to be noticed. Our solar system is in a sparse cosmic neighborhood. ETs will find better pickings elsewhere.

How do they feel about redcaps?

We know this is true because of the Deneb Deli and the Betelgeuse Bagel store.
But if we Jews control the world, how come I get bupkus?

On several occasions, for at least a week before the event. These traces may have been meteors or some other natural phenomenon. Probably unconnected with the FLIR clip. Kevin Day, one of the radar operators, has admitted these returns may not have been connected.

Whatever Fravor saw, it does not resemble anything ‘coming down from 80,000 feet’ and it does not resemble the object seen in the FLIR clip, which is a fuzzy, apparently stationary blob tens of kilometres away. The object Fravor saw was between him and the sea, so was only a few thousand feet away, and was probably a large seabird or perhaps a balloon or drone. He circled around the object, and probably fell victim to the same parallax effect that occurs in the GOFAST video, which made the object appear to be circling opposite him, whereas it was merely stationary (or nearly so). But we don’t have much data to analyse in this sighting, apart from a 16 year-old testimony.

We do, however, have data to analyse in this case; the FLIR clip, which does not show the rapid manoeuvrability described by Fravor, but instead shows a distant aircraft that is probably moving almost directly away from the camera. The crew in this case were directed towards a possible radar contact, but the thing they filmed was many kilometers away from the radar return, so was probably not connected.

The Nimitz was using a relatively new radar system at this time, and they were probably detecting a lot of false returns that they didn’t know how to identify yet. The FLIR system is also deceptive, since it can detect and lock on to targets that look impressive but are in fact entirely innocuous, and display them in ways that can be confusing.

Maybe it’s aliens, maybe it’s Jesus, or maybe it’s a hoax or some mundane explanation that results in an illusion of high-speed flying objects.

The latter seems a lot more likely than the former explanations.

I don’t have a cite but remember someone claiming a similar statement was made in an unofficial interview with a member of the UAP investigation team. The investigation team determined the UAPs were not physical objects so they shut down the investigation. Might be complete B.S. but it made sense to me.

I’m not seeing any “proof” or even disturbing anomalies. Looks like separate events mashed together. Made worse by the time and memory gaps.

Show me something easily discernible, physical evidence, and multiple corroborating accounts and I’ll waste some of my limited time on earth looking/reading. Until then; it’s just another drunk in a gorilla suit.

“Say…what’s a drunk in a gorilla suit doing way up here in a cloud bank?”

He was launched from our super secret submarine riding on a stealth drone also equipped with helium weather balloons.