Lt. Graves has publicly stated that these things didn’t start showing up until they upgraded their radar systems from the AN/APG-73 to the AN/APG-79. I wonder why the aliens waited for that.
Hypothetically, maybe the newer systems can detect things that the older systems couldn’t. That said, I know next to nothing about radar systems and I’m skeptical about the whole UAP / UFO thing anyway.
ETA: I just realized that this thread is a year old.
Or too small, like birds or drones.
Yes, to his point of view.
Venus seems to move very quickly as a UFO.
That does not mean what he thought he saw actually did that.
Maybe the aliens had a pee tape of him? 
They only eat guys who move luggage around? Weird.
I am as skeptical as the next man, but I’m looking forward to the declassification if it indeed happens.
I feel that there will be some interesting info, bearing in mind that, for me, a radar system fuckup and optical illusions would be interesting.
One thing I was wondering: regarding “secret test planes”, what if they’re American? What I mean is, one thing that people have assumed, is that since it’s American pilots making these reports, they can’t possibly belong to the American military.
But, such test projects need to be kept very secret. During the time of the sr-71 or stealth bomber tests, were there any reports filed of crazy fast, sleek aircraft?
The most likely explanation is that these new detection systems are too sensitive, and are detecting ordinary objects that the pilots would not normally notice. Graves reckons they were seeing these things every time they went on a sortie; that suggests to me they are ordinary phenomena that were previously unobservable, such as distant planes, stray balloons, and large birds.
The new radar systems are probably prone to glitches too, which is why many of the detections have occurred when new systems have recently been introduced. I’m interested to see what the results of the official report will be, but sometimes these reports are slightly too credulous and assume that military observers are more accurate than other witnesses, when that may not always be the case. In particular, pilots are more likely to identify an unknown as a mystery craft, because they are trained to expect them.
There is a semantic component to the problem. If the reports were labeled ‘Unresolved Display Artifacts’ they would get less attention than ‘Unidentified Arial Phenomena’.
That’s right; it is a semantic nightmare. The term Unidentified Aerial Phenomena implies that these events occur inside the Earth’s atmosphere; however, at least one of the movie clips (the so-called Pyramid UFO clip) seems to show out-of-focus bokeh caused by stars and the planet Jupiter (among other things). This would be celestial, rather than aerial phenomena.
Add to this that a very small number of sightings in the past have been explained by entirely physiological events, such as hallucinations, strokes or Charles-Bonnet Syndrome, the most accurate description would be simply Unidentified Stuff.
Most accurate but also useless, absent context.
I’m fine with UAP, as I consider the unidentified part to implicitly include “apparent” i.e. the viewer thought it was some object moving through Earth’s atmosphere.
But I guess making it explicit (UAAP) would be even better.
These are unidentified artifacts that may or may not be in the atmosphere. The impossible nature of their actions point to electronic rather than physical origins.
This stuff may have been created by the night shift on the simulator.
We’re left with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena being… unidentified. Maddeningly so, in that they cannot all be explained as swamp gas, the planet Venus, ice halos, camera artifacts, etc.; but if they are some sort of aerial object, nature unknown, it has proven maddeningly impossible to obtain clear, unambiguous footage of them.
I don’t remember where I saw it, maybe in this very thread, but there was a YouTube video by a guy very familiar with cameras and he used math, numbers on the HUDs, camera tech and examples of other air-to-air images to show how most, if not all, of these more recent releases can by explained. He was very convincing. I’ll look around for the video.
This?
That’s probably Mick West. He is not always right, but he is willing to look at the evidence, and change his mind as necessary.
From the time I first saw them, I did not find the leaked videos the least bit convincing. But the media is reporting that the coming report will say that the Pentagon believes these things are real but they have no idea what they are and consider them to be a national security threat. Apparently at least some other countries have similar opinions, and some people who would seem to be in positions to be in the know are taking it seriously .
If so, then I hope they’re not basing this on those lame videos and have better evidence.
I’m finding this whole flap to be confusing. Hopefully this report will clarify things.
Well, to me the most interesting evidence is from the USS Omaha, which shows radar traces of at least fourteen objects surrounding the ship at one time. Either the radar was very unreliable on this occasion, or some sort of spoofing technology was being deployed, or something else; but this event doesn’t lend itself to an easy explanation.
I doubt we will be given enough information to solve this mystery ourselves, however.
Yeah. I think the report will basically be that this phenomenon is real but they have no idea what it is. Whether or not they really don’t know is another question.
Maybe it’s something so bizarre that they fear they won’t be believed, e.g. octopuses have an advanced deep sea civilization. (Note that I say that tongue in cheek.)
The report was nothing new, which is pretty much what I expected.