I’d be there if i wasn’t 17 and from the midlands… and if i actually knew any of you…
Though, i would consider a Leicesterdope if such a thing was ever to occur.
Well, you’ll be 18 in less than a year! And the best way to get to know us is to meet us. 
Can’t do much about the midlands thing though, except feel sorry for you.
d&r
Well, the silver would certainly be the most versatile, unless he’s planing on wearing it with anything gold or gold-trimmed. That would be très gauche. I like the pink velvet slipper idea, but only if he’s going with the hot little fuschia number or something similar. It’s so difficult to coordinate those strong colors, though.
But let’s talk headgear. What are your thoughts on headgear? Should we recommence the hijab discussion? (Strictly from a fashion standpoint; we can save the rest for GD.) Or stick to a simple feather headpiece of some sort, maybe held on with a couple of hidden combs and with some netting over the eyes, all the better to flirt coyly with, m’dear?
Oh, and **Tir, ** congrats to you and Twisty!
Thankiees! 
Okay I just want you all to know that you now responsible for the mental image of Bib dressed as Dorothy from the Wizard Of Oz that will now torture me for the rest of my days.
Listen I just started thinking about shoes okay and it spiraled off from there…
On a more positive I have decided it would churlish to intoxicate merely those dopers to whom I owe an alcohol debt and thus will be getting drinks at random for those who cross my eyeline.
what happens if you get double vision?
I’m not sure which is worse, the image in your head, or the one that I now have of Barry Manilow in a sari…or perhaps the one of Bibliovore in the white muumuu-sleeve thing that Barry Manilow wore doing Copacabana on TV when I was a kid. (It may not have been white; my house didn’t have a color TV until I was in college.)
On the bright side, Bib, they’re doing marvelous new things with kilts these days. There was a Celtic Fest in Chicago last summer, and one guy had a booth with custom-made kilts, including a stunning metallic silver jobbie, which he wore with some very manly Doc Martens. I pretty much had to peel my friend off of him, and she was married with a small baby at home and normally behaves herself. There were some tiger-stripe ones, and some very elegant tuxedo-style ones, although the effect was somewhat lost with the Chuck Taylors and tube socks. It’s all in the accessories, I tell you…
Bwhahahahaaaaaaa! Now I got an image of Bib dressed as Dorian Green!
I just have very strange images of Bib in my head now.
As for headgear, I think a headscarf would be passe, but seeing as most of the shalwar kameezes come with a matching scarf, which is generally worn round the neck, I’m sure we could improvise something.
Now I have a picture of Angua, in a silver kilt and Doc Martens, leading Bib around on a gauzy rhinestone leash…ACK!
Eva, you’ve got some really strong cold medicine out there.
But are the Doc Martens tartan?
Nah, I just have no drug tolerance.
Doc Martens are your choice. The ones in my vision were plain black knee-high ones, but whatever floats your boat. Besides, tartan doesn’t go very well with the silver leather kilt and the fuschia number.
I’m up for it on the 24th. Time and place, please. And if those from forn parts (Angua, Tansu…) need crash space, I do have a spare room.
** Dawne**, do come - we’ll remember that you can only drink non-alcoholic drinks.
Good point. How about thigh high suede ones? They should go well with the kilt, and keep him warm.
1pm at the George Inn. Nearest tube London Bridge (northern & jubilee line), but you can also walk from Monument/Bank (Dockalnd LR, district, circle, cental & northern lines).
(map at link)
The problem with under 18’s coming along is that most pubs, especially in town, wont allow under 18’s inside. If it was summer we could all sit in the beer garden, but it’s a tad cold for that. 
I just tried calling the George to ask, but only got the ansaphone. I’ll try again later.
If the pub does food then 16-18 year-olds are allowed in - they’re even allowed wine with their meal (unless that law has changed since I last worked in a pub). In any case, someone only a little under 18 is never going to be trned away from a British pub, especially if she’s not trying to buy any alcohol.
Well thank you for wanting me to come but it would be a little too difficult - I’m sure I’d have no trouble getting into a pub, i have before on quite a few occasions, but still having to answer to my parents about where I’m going and who with and for how long make it a little difficult, as does my lack of a car or any money for an expensive train ride etc etc. Like i say, if theres ever one around my area, like Leicester or Birmingham or something, I’d definitely consider it. It sounds like you’re all going to have a good time, especially with this dodgy dressing up : )
That is still the law, the actual minimum age to be allowed into a pub is 14 with an adult (however they can’t drink alcohol even if eating), to allow younger children in the pub must have a designated area for kids and a certificate.
But all of it is at the pub’s discretion, they don’t have to allow under 18’s in at all.
The Weatherspoons chain for example does food all day, and if you’re 17 years 364 days you cant go in. Other pubs have over 21’s rules. Providing they’re not breaking the law they can pretty much add any additional ones they want.
In all but one of the pubs I’ve worked in we’ve turned away anyone under 18, and probably a lot over 18 too if they couldn’t provide ID regardless of if they were drinking alcohol.
Nevermind Dawne you’ll be able to come along soon! We’ve done a BrumDope before so I guess we might be able to manage another one.
When’s your birthday? maybe we’ll do a DawneDope for you. 
I can’t say if I’ll make it yet, but I do wish you and Twistythe very best.
Don’t worry about the book Tir - I was only about 100 yards away when I realised I’d left it and didn’t feel the need to rush back for it (yes, it’s that good). Chuck it, sell it, give it to Oxfam, set it free on a train for others to read, I don’t mind.