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[QUOTE=Spiritus Mundi]
Allow me to lobby for:
[ul]li round penalty on keeper picks. (+2) is too steep.[/li][li]NO free agent keepers. [/ul][/li][/QUOTE]

Can you please update the league page (http://steelerphan.teemingmillions.com/ffsdmbhome.html) with your final clarifications on keeper rules? Specifically, the no FA keepers rule, and whether you’re going to change the “round penalty” from +2 to +1, or not.

BTW, I would still like to designate keepers in the NFL pre-season, not at the end of the year. Here is the keeper league time-table at AntSports, which hosts serious for money keeper leagues:

I would like to designate next year’s keepers one week before next year’s draft. I think it’s easier than the “end of year/use alternate keepers” method, and avoids the can of worms that will be opened should one of the coaches in the league not return next year.

Also Steelerphan, let’s either get that random draft order set, or just use Yahoo’s standard “30 minutes before the draft” randomization.

League draft in 40 minutes.

Senor, you just scared the living daylights out of me. I thought that was for *this * league.

The whole keeper thing is just making my head hurt.

Will I be able to draft someone I can’t? Will the keepers be untouchable from my computer? That’s all I need to know. If I can’t, I will then draft by the seat of my pants like I do with all my teams (Save for last year, when the crappy computer picked my team) Please don’t me read too much here, I’m crazy busy with work, and haven’t been able to keep up with the details.

Someone please give me a Reader’s Digest condensed version.

Take some pain reliever. It’s not as complicated as you think.

:slight_smile:

First, there are no past keepers. The draft is wide open, so this is an important one.

We’re still ironing out keeper details, but I intend to make the final rules cut once everyone checks in after the draft.

At the moment, how to deal with the free agents we pick up this year as keepers for next year is being discussed. I have posted the league rules page here.

To all: We have one day left to change the scoring rules. Do I need to change anything? Tell me about it.

I believe you left out the Bonus Points. +2 for being the best looking in the league. +3 for being the smartest. +4 for being the wittiest. And +5 for being the most humble.

That gives me +14 points. That’s a good place to start.

Which brings up something I meant to do, but forgot this year:

The Bizarro Fantasy League, where yardage and touchdowns count negative towards your total, fumbles and missing field goals count extra. Bad defenses are the most prized possessions in the league. I suppose if you could find a league that kept track of dropped balls and incompletions, you’d be gold. Would that be fun, or is my brain still not working from the weekend?

It would be fun, but as you mentioned, you’d have to find a service that would track bad things, as opposed to just the lack of good things. There are plenty of players out there who can’t do anything good, but to find those who are truly bad, and continue to play anyways? Mmmmm-hmmmm.

-K.

You are on the way to destruction !!

P.S.
I’m not kidding.

You have no chance to survive make your time.

Here are the first seven teams in draft order. I will finish the rest early toimorrow; I need to get some sleep.

**Rhinosaurs (neuroman) **

P. Holmes RB KC
C. Johnson WR CIN
Q. Griffin RB DEN
C. Chambers WR MIA
T. Brady QB NE
Is. Bruce WR STL
Ro. Williams WR DET
A. Boldin WR ARI
J. Plummer QB DEN
D. Akers K PHI
J. Stevens TE SEA
N. Davenport RB GB
D. Watts WR DEN
Washington DEF WAS
Green Bay DEF GB

Baltimore Weirdos

L. Tomlinson RB SD
M. Hasselbeck QB SEA
J. Horn WR NO
Baltimore DEF BAL
T. Heap TE BAL
W. Green RB CLE
I. Hilliard WR NYG
M. Robinson WR MIN
J. Wilkins K STL
E. Manning QB NYG
C. Taylor RB BAL
A. Gates TE SD
D. Terrell WR CHI
R. Longwell K GB
D. Bledsoe QB BUF
M. Schobel TE CIN

**4th and 19 (Wilson) **

D. McAllister RB NO
D. McNabb QB PHI
C. Brown RB TEN
L. Suggs RB CLE
J. Porter WR OAK
R. Wayne WR IND
W. McGahee RB BUF
E. Smith RB ARI
L. Evans WR BUF
D. Driver WR GB
S. Janikowski K OAK
J. Harrington QB DET
M. Pollard TE IND
B. Stokley WR IND
D. Graham TE NE
Oakland DEF OAK

T. Rex (Steelerphan)

A. Green RB GB
H. Ward WR PIT
T. Green QB KC
C. Garner RB TB
J. McCareins WR NYJ
Ke. Johnson WR BAL
G. Hearst RB DEN
A. Lelie WR DEN
T. Calico WR TEN
J. Elam K DEN
A. Zereoue RB OAK
E. Kinney TE TEN
D. Hall WR KC
Pittsburgh DEF PIT
V. Testaverde QB ` DAL
L. Betts RB WAS

Mundi’s Morning Blue

C. Portis RB WAS
B. Westbrook RB PHI
T. Gonzalez TE KC
B. Favre QB GB
P. Burress WR PIT
Ke. Johnson WR DAL
W. Dunn RB ATL
Miami DEF MIA
D. Givens WR NE
J. Rice WR OAK
J. McCown QB ARI
M. Alstott RB TB
A. Vinatieri K NE
J. Gage WR CHI
B. Watson TE NE
Ri. Williams RB MIA*

**BithloMulletRevival **

P. Manning QB IND
C. Dillon RB NE
D. Mason WR TEN
K. Robinson WR SEA
E. George RB DAL
New England DEF NE
P. Warrick WR CIN
M. Shipp RB ARI
A. Davis WR CLE
M. Muhammad WR CAR
M. Stover K BAL
B. Franks TE GB
B. Troupe TE TEN
K. Faulk RB NE
C. Simms QB TB
F. Mitchell WR PHI

**Pentium None **

R. Moss WR MIN
S. Davis RB CAR
M. Vick QB ATL
T. Barber RB NYG
C. Rogers WR DET
T. Wheatley RB OAK
A. Crumpler TE ATL
R. Gardner WR WAS
J. Bettis RB PIT
Minnesota DEF MIN
B. Johnson QB TB
J. Brown K SEA
N. Burleson WR MIN
B. Roethlisberger QB PIT
F. Jones TE ARI
T. Taylor WR BAL

Okay, I’ll do the analysis. No one take offense, this is merely opinion. No hard feelings are intended, just some solid criticism and comments.

Rhinosaurs:
Yes, it’s possible. Someone who picked Priest Holmes is hurting at runningback. On bye weeks he’s left with Priest and Davenport or Griffin and Davenport. And don’t mention Tatum Bell breathing down Griffin’s tiny little neck. Brady and Plummer are solid QB picks - I’m not fooled by Plummer’s horrendous preseason numbers. WRs are also solid. Will win 9 games solely on the back of Priest.

Baltimore Weirdos:
See runningback comments above, and multiply by 25. But if Green wrests the job away from Suggs and performs, allow me to offer a preventative mea culpa. Until then, 3 tight ends and 2 #2 wide receivers are going to have to rely on LT2 for a lot of points.

4th and 19:
Very solid draft. Best running back corp of the league, McNabb will dominate, Porter will step up, Wayne won’t suck, and he has great back ups. My only question is, Oakland defense?!? They could draft my 2 year old nephew and still be the oldest team in the league. Pollard will disappoint, but Graham is an excellent backup.

T. Rex:
Definitely did his homework on wide receivers. A fact that could have allowed him to pick up an extra running back earlier - Garner as your #2 and no starting #3 is going to hurt down the stretch. But if Wheatley, Griffin, Bell, and Portis go down, this is the team to beat (or sell your soul to). I really like the QBs. Green was picked a tad early, but Vinny was excellent value.

Mundis Morning Blue:
Another fantastic runningback corps. Picking up Ricky was brilliant, and a tactic I had considered. I wish I had taken him instead of Warner - but I digress. The gem of that group is Alstott - the perfect bye week filler. Not too expensive, will probably get quite a few TDs - which is all that counts really in this league. Dunn will be interesting, as he may just be a yardage back. It may not be a bad move to switch Alstott in for Dunn once we see how the Atlanta offense is going to work. Good QBs, good backups, good K/DEF set.

BithloMulletRevival:
I hate taking QBs in the first 3 rounds. He took one in the first round. Personally, I think that’s going to bite him in the ass. And, in fact, it did. Other than Dillon, his runningbacks are Eddie George, Marcell Shipp (out for the season) and Dillon’s backup. Great set of WRs, though. K/DEF set is also very good.

Pentium None:
Scary good team. Nothing to say other than that. This team is set for this year, and it’s set for next year. There is no weakness here. The Russian saying, “Strong - like bull; smart - like tractor” would only apply if we’re talking about a supercomputer-controlled tractor from the 83rd Century. Will win the league, and make all of us cry and lament doing so.

Omni’s Omnipotents:
S. Alexander
D. Davis
S. McNair
D. Jackson
J. Jones
P. Price
B. Lloyd
Carolina
Q. Morgan
J. Kasay
J. Witten
T. Hambrick
M. Clayton
De. Clark
A. Thomas
O. Mare

I’m not convinced J. Jones will get many carries this year. Dallas is going to be good, and Parcells can’t waste time training a new runningback. Regardless, this is a great team. Hambrick will step up, and that’s all that matters for Omni. The starting WRs here are probably the best of the bunch. Backups aren’t bad either. No QB backup - interesting. That’s a risky proposition with McNair as your starter. Good TE/K/DEF combos.

Balls:
E. James
T. Henry
T. Owens
D. Staley
J. Smith
L. Fitzgerald
Tampa Bay
Da. Clark
Re. Williams
R. Ferguson
D. Carr
M. Brunell
G. Jones
R. Gannon
T. Hollings
L. Tynes

Frankly, I don’t understand why T.O. fell so far. He’s going to make everyone who picked a WR before him in this round look absolutely foolish. Great starting runningbacks, terrible backups. Doesn’t matter, because he has bench at WR to cover for that. This is a very, VERY close second to Pentium None. Waiting on a QB paid off, IMO - Brunell will be his starter for most of the season, but Gannon and Carr will put up enough points to win. Well done.

New York Fanboys:
C. Pennington
S. Moss
C. Martin
J. Shockey
A. Toomer
R. Dayne
L. Jordan
A. Becht
Buffalo
J. Garcia
A. Smith
A. Bryant
J. Hall
Seattle
J. Losman
T. Pinkston

Um, well… It’s not as bad as it looks. For a team that has 2 backups starting, NYFB could win a couple games from Moss, Martin, Shockey, Chad and Toomer. But not many. Could have benefited from asking for advice more than 2 hours in advance of the draft - could have pulled in Barber and McCareins if they had waited on Pennington. Add in Eli, and you might have some decent keeper picks as well. A team with Martin, Barber, Toomer, Moss, McCareins, Shockey and Pennington would have been possible, and would have been good.

Me!:
J. Lewis
K. Barlow
T. Jones
L. Coles
M. Bulger
D. Foster
B. Williams
D. Bennett
Philly
K. McCardell
La. Johnson
C. Palmer
T. Glenn
D. Northcutt
K. Warner
M. Andersen

Not the best receivers in the league. But if McCardell gets picked up (KC?), he could be huge. And at Rd. 10, he is. My backs are the best in the league, closely rivaled by Wilson. Larry Johnson is the cream of the keepers. Carson Palmer has a lot to prove (I think Kitna got the shaft), but will be good for me down the stretch. Northcutt and Glenn were good late round pickups, and Bulger in the 5th was fantastic. He’ll put up numbers behind Manning, but not too far - certainly worth the 4 round wait. I would be very interested in a WR upgrade.

DerierExtraordinaire:
M. Harrison
R. Johnson
S. Smith
M. Bennett
D. Stallworth
J. Delhomme
L. Gordon
D. Branch
Dallas
O. Smith
T. Maddox
L. Smith
Tennessee
D. Rhodes
R. Woods
P. Edinger

I like it. I’m not sure about Delhomme, but he’s good for Rd. 6. Will hurt at RB for Week 1 (Smith and Bennett are out for 1-4, Gordon out for 1), but they’re a great set. Gordon was an excellent pickup - best value at RB in the draft (unless you count Ricky). Great receivers, great backups. I’m not sure about Edinger, but he’s just a kicker.

Hamlet:
M. Faulk
D. Culpepper
E. Moulds
An. Johnson
T.J. Duckett
S. Jackson
M. Vanderjagt
R. Smith
J. Fargas
R. McMichael
C. Perry
M. Smith
T. Rattay
Kansas City
E. Parker
I. Mili

Hamlet didn’t like this team when the draft was over, but I do. I think there were really great picks, and excellent value chosen here. Johnson could be worth a Round 1 keeper next season, and Duckett will certainly be worth a Rd. 2 (not to mention Jackson at 3). R. Smith was high value, Moulds really fell down the draft board to him, and McMichael is always overlooked. I wanna know who he wanted instead of Perry. Good team - top 5.

Varlos’ Zzzzzzzzzz:
F. Taylor
T. Holt
A. Brooks
K. Jones
J. Walker
K. Winslow
M. Booker
Mo. Williams
J. Galloway
B. Leftwich
E. Kennison
T. Minor
St. Louis
L. Toefield
J. Feely
D. Patten

There are questions at RB. Can K. Jones put up numbers? Will Moe keep getting goalline carries when SOD and Bennett return? What’s the deal with Ovaltine (err…Minor)? The biggest question he managed to answer: How fragile is Freddy? The answer: Who cares, he drafted Toefield to back him up. This is a good team, but may have trouble finishing. Brooks has late season issues, Winslow’s never played, the GB WR situation is always in flux, K. Jones may not work out, etc. But he has one of the best benches in the league, so it may not matter one bit. Has my favorite kicker, if only to hear Burman’s “touch me, see me, feely…” line.

Great Post, Munch. Looking over your comments, I feel a bit better about my team, and I think you made some great points.

Here, for what it is worth, is my analysis. Read… and be awed:

Seeing as how Draft Day is my favorite day of the fantasy football season, I thought I’d put together a nice little, scratch that, huge piece rating everyone’s team. It’s almost as fun as smack talking, which, as it appears from my team this year, I will not have much opportunity to do.

Before I start, I’d like to say I really enjoyed the draft and it was so sweet that everybody could make it. I had a blast, and I do look forward to this season and this league. I hope nobody takes me too seriously and everybody gets involved.

That being said, let’s begin the critique:

Rhinosaurs

The sweetest word for neuroman these days is DEFAULT. He is the default champion of the league after the unfortunate retirement of mouthbreather. For those who are concerned, mouthbreather is currently touring with Lenny Kravitz and has plans to spend the next year in Asia “smoking as much pot as humanly possible.” To aid neuro in his quest for a repeat, the rhinosaurs had the first pick of the draft and to absolutely noone’s surprise, took Priest Holmes. And, this season, he is going to live or die by that pick. He forsook running back depth, instead going for young talented wide receivers. It’s a gamble, but, if Priest remains Priest, may pay off nicely. All in all, a good team that will be severely hurt if they lose one guy.

Best Pick: Priest Holmes. I also liked getting Brady in the 5th round.
Worst Pick: Having a roster with only 3 running backs.
Overall Grade: B-, with one injury away from D.

Baltimore Weirdos

Weirddave won my undying admiration by picking up Matt Schobel in the 16th round. Matt Schobel has Tony Gonzalez written all over him… if he’s wearing a Tony Gonzalez replica jersey that is. I really liked the Weirdo’s first three and his last four picks. Getting an outstanding qb, rb combination and a nice wr was great, and picking up Terrell, Longwell, and Bledsoe in the late rounds will payoff nicely for this team. However, the homer picks in rounds 4 and 5 had me shaking my head. Not that the Ravens D and Heap aren’t good selections, but it was very early and the Weirdos will be stuck for at second rb and a second wr. This lack of solid depth will hurt this team.

Best Pick: Terrell and Bledsoe. And, of course, LT.
Worst Pick: Ravens D in the fourth round.
Overall Grade: C+. If William Green pans out (which I’m not sold on) a B+.

Fourth And Nineteen

Having to pick 13th this year, I have a new found respect for Wilson’s drafting prowess last year. Now Wilson has to deal with the expectations that come with the pressure of picking 3rd. And I think he handled it very well. Although I would have gone Ahman or Portis over Deuce, it’s a matter of taste. I had Deuce last year and he helped me to third place, so I guess I can’t complain. Overall, I really like this team and expect them to do well. He’s got an outstanding crew of running backs (IF Suggs is healthy), and some up and coming WR’s (he hopes). He’ll need one of his young WR crew to step up in order to win it all, but he’s in really good shape.

Best Pick: I’m tempted to say Chris Brown, because he’s looked awfully good this preseason. He may well be a stud.
Worst Pick: I’m tempted to say Chris Brown. Grabbing him while Terrell Owens and Derrick Mason were still on the board had me scratching my head. Especially because I wanted him to fall to me. As you can tell, I’m a very complex, conflicted guy. It’s my cross to bear.
Overall Grade: A-

T-Rex

First, a shout out to the commish for pulling this thing together. Well done, Steelerphan. I will never, ever make a comment about you singing show tunes in a thong again.

As far as the draft goes, T-Rex drafted like he was singing show tunes in a thong. DAMMIT, I did it again. Shit, I’m sorry. Won’t happen again.
In all seriousness, I really like this team, and I think they are one of the best so far. Steelerphan has a fantastic starting lineup, with the Green boys, Ward, and Garner. You really can’t hope for much more in a 14 player league. With the exception of Lelie, however, I was not impressed with the later round picks. Calico is hurt and no sure thing anyway, Hearst is coming off an injury and may be 3rd string, and Zero-way, Hall, and Testaverde are just sad. Maybe he stayed up to late the night before singing show tunes in a thong. FUCK!!!, I gotta stop that. I’m sorry.

Best Pick: The first five rounds. All good, solid picks. I also like Kevin Johnson.
Worst Pick: Hearst in the 7th round. Way too early and a lot better players were available. Perhaps you were singing sho… AHA. I caught myself that time.
Overall: A-. With the thong… oh crap, forget it.

Mundi’s Morning Blue

Nice to have Spiritus back into football season at the SDMB. Welcome back. Your dreams were your ticket out… Why yes, I did spend too much of my childhood watching television, why do you ask?
Mundi sacrificed one position for the betterment of all positions. Very Spock-like in it’s logic. Now that I’ve done a 14 team draft (this was my first, and you all were definitely not gentle), I may agree with his theory. While possibly weak at WR, Mundi has a solid core of running backs, a consistent QB, a great D, and THE TE. You could do worse than Burress, Meshaun, Givens, Rice and Gage as WR, but, in my opinion, Mundi will be hard pressed to get much of anything out of that position. Still, I don’t know enough to say whether the plan will work.

Best Pick: Warrick Dunn in the 7th round. He’s not much in scoring leagues, but he’s a fine flex player. I also like Favre in the 5th.
Worst Pick: Keyshaun Johnson. Mouth over matter. With the possible exception of Michael Vick, he could be the most overrated player in the history of the game. In addition, passing on Owens to grab Gonzo was not the best move.
Overall: B-.

Bithlo Mullet Revival

Furt gets the “Smack yourself in the face with the palm of your hand” award for picking Marcel Shipp. And, since I’m feeling generous, I’ll also give him a sturdy walker to help with his aging running back corp. Dillon and George are mentioned along with Methusaleh in the Bible, but maybe they do have something left in the tank. Maybe. Overall, a fantastic QB, solid WR’s and one brain cramp make this a middle of the road team.

Best Pick: Peter Warrick in the 7th round. I project nice things for him, but I’ve been wrong before. Grabbing Freddie Mitchell in the last round was genius also.
Worst Pick: Marcel Shipp.
Overall: C. A perfectly average team that will rely heavily on the arm of Peyton Manning.

Pentium None

Another team that may live or die with one pick. And that one pick is coming off an injury, is in a new system, has thrown only 12 passes this preseason, has a woeful 41.7% completion percentage, has no chemistry with his receivers, and goes by the name Steelerphan singing show tuneNO!, I mean Michael Vick. As you could probably guess, I’m not sold on the guy. But if he explodes, he’ll make this team one of the top teams in the league. Other than Vick, a very solid draft that created a solid team to beat.

Best Pick: All of them in the 5th through 9th rounds. I love Charles Rogers, Wheatley is a starting rb, Crumpler is a top 5 TE, Gardner could be on the brink of something great, and Bettis is an OK backup. These solid, great value picks in the middle rounds will greatly help this team.
Worst Pick: Nate Burleson in the 13th. You stole him from me your mother fucker, and you will pay. Oh, and that Vick guy.
Overall: Surprising solid team that, if Vick lives up to the hype, can contend. B+.

Omni’s Omnipotents

Two words: Me likey! From top to bottom, a great draft by Omni. Hopefully, he’ll find some way during the season to fuck it up, but for drafting from the 8 spot, he did very well. I could just picture him drooling all over his keyboard as Shaun Alexander fell to him, only to be followed up by Domanick Davis falling to him…then Darrell Jackson falling to him… then Julius Jones falling to him…then Peerless Price falling to him. Lucky fucker. And the team to beat.

Best Pick: Almost every single mother fucking one of them.
Worst Pick: Find me one. Go ahead, find me one.
Overall: A. Outstanding. Of course, my raves may be just the kiss of death he needs.

Balls (Chitwood)

Mmmmmmm. Chitwood balls. Now I’m hungry. Another drafter who sacrificed one position to build a very good team. Going for quantity over quality at the QB position, in this kind of league, may be a problem, but despite that, Chitwood put together a very talented team. T.O. just fell to him (and I think he’ll make all those owners regret it), and getting Edge and Henry as starters will make this team a contender. I just don’t want to be there on Sunday morning as Chitwood scratches his head (and other assorted bodily parts), and tries to figure out who to start Carr, Brunell, or Gannon.

Best Pick: T.O in the third round. A top 5 wide receiver.
Worst Pick: Waiting on a QB.
Overall: B+. We’ll see how the QB carousel works week to week.

New York Fan Boys

Never in the history of fantasy football has there been a more fitting, more apropos team name. Some mind boggling choices to chase players on the New York teams left me stunned. Here are some things that suck about New York: their flat, cardboard pizza, traffic, their conceited attitude, and now, the New York Fan Boys. I enjoy an occassional homer pick, but one after another does not a good draft make. It may be a long season for Ellis Dee.

Best Pick: I think Dayne and Jordan could have good years this year.
Worst Pick: Pennington in the first, S. Moss in the second, CuMar in the third…the list goes on and on.
Overall: D-. Which hurts cause I have Pennington as my QB in one of my money leagues, so he better do well.

Falcon Twists

Munch, just like Omni, had to take his computer for cleaning today because of all the drool of players who fell to him. Drug charges and the fact that not many (read none) running backs reproduce great seasons after 2,000+ yards rushing, make Jamal Lewis a risk, but getting him at 11 was the best pick of the draft. And to get Barlow on the way back makes this team a tough one. Add Thomas Jones, Laverneus Coles, and Mark Bulger, and this team looks fantastic, and a team that could weather a storm. The only weakness is at #2 wr, which is not a bad weakness to have.

Best Pick: Jamal Lewis. And most of the other ones for that matter. Getting 3 running backs should have cost him more dearly in the other positions, but it didn’t.
Worst Pick: Deshaun Foster. Letting Price, Fitzgerald, Williams, and other good wr go by to get a fourth running back who, even when healthy and good, won’t get the goalline carries, was a reach.
Overall: A-. A tough team to beat.

Derier Extrodinaire

You m… f… c… festering, pile of s… … c… f… I hope you rot in eternal hell, tormented by the looped voice of Rosanne Barr singing the national anthem. If I ever find you, I’m going to beat the ever living tar out of you, kidnap you, and have the names Marvin Harrison, Lamar Gordon, Dallas Defense, and Rashaun Woods tattooed on your face you robbing piece of crap. Every effin time I hoped a guy would fall to me, you scooped him. My team could suck this year because of you, and next year, when I’m kicking your lily-livered ass up and down the fantasy football street, I want you to remember this day.

Ahem.

Best Pick: Lamar Gordon. A starting running back on a run first team in the 7th round? Fuck you.
Worst Pick: Jake Delhomme in the 6th round. Great leader…not a great fantasy point scorer.
Overall: B. And Fuck you.

Hamlet To Be Named Later

Let me bend your ear for a second. Indulge me. I’ve never done a 14 person draft before, and I was surprised at how quickly talent disappears. In every single draft I’ve ever done in the last 10 years, I’ve had at least one guy I liked fall to me, or I avoided getting scooped all the time. This was, without a doubt, the worst draft, luck wise, I’ve ever had. Not that I don’t kinda-sorta like my team, but picking 13th blows, and I couldn’t get a guy to fall to me for the life of me. Every time it came for me to pick, my queue was empty and I was scrambling for a choice.

Thanks, I needed to get that out.

Overall, I like my team OK, but I can also see it going to crap in a second. I’ll need to get lucky on one or two of my late round picks to really compete, but stranger things have happened. Here’s hoping it’s a strange season. You know what would be strange? If Marshall Faulk stayed frickin healthy.

Best Pick: I like almost all of the picks, but none of them stand out as “Oh My God” fantastic picks. I liked getting Eric Parker in the 15th round, and I expect great things from Moulds and Culpepper.
Worst Pick: Vanderjadt. Yeah, I’m that guy who picked a fucking kicker a round before anybody else. In my defense, I had queued up Lamont Jordan, Lamar Gordon, Brandon Lloyd, Bucs D, and Warrick Dunn and went to check on the wife and kids. I figured that there would be no fucking way I couldn’t get at least one of those guys. Figures.
Overall: C+. A very angry, unlucky, and sad C.

Varlos zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Kudos on putting together a servicable team picking from the 14th hole. Other than scooping me on Kevin Jones, I think the team is as good as it can be from there. Brooks is a feast or famine quarterback, as is Freddie, Javon Walker, and, I suspect, Kevin Jones, so there may be some pretty awful weeks, but there will also be some brilliant ones for this team. If varlos gets into the playoffs and can get lucky, they could win it all. Of course, that’s true for everyone in the league, but take your victories where you can.

Best Pick: Moe Williams in the 8th round. He’s a guy I forgot about. But with Bennett’s injuries and Onterrio’s drug problems, Moe will be a guy who can really produce, depending on the week. Not bad for the 8th round.
Worst Pick: Travis Minor. There are one-legged midgets who fall down who have a higher yard per carry average. I’m also leery of Kellen Winslow being all hype and no points.
Overall: C+.

So, to recap for those who do not enjoy in depth analysis and humorous comments intersperced therein, here’s who I think have the best shot of winning this damn league. I’ve ranked it from best to worst, according to the traditional football measure: the Brady Family:

Marcia:

Omni’s Omnipotents
Falcon Twists (Munch)

Greg, when he was Groovy:

T-Rex
Wilson’s 4th and 19

Mike and Carol:

Pentium None
Rhinosaurs
Mundi’s Morning Blue
Balls (Chitwood)
Derier Extrodinaire (oh, and Fuck You!)

Jan:

Baltimore Weirdos
BithloMulletRevival
HamletToBeNamedLater
Varloszzzzzz

Oliver:

New York Fanboys
Well, there you have it. Any comments, huzzah’s, or complaints are very much appreciated.

**Rhinosaurs (neuroman) **

Sadly, I don’t play neuroman in week 5, when Holmes has a bye. I would be a bit nervous with only 3 running backs, but a decent WR corps could be enough to get him by. But it’s a young group, so there are question marks.
Baltimore Weirdos

Hasselback is going to have a stellar year, each year I like him more. Add to that Tomlinson and Horn, and this team is solid. I think Eli will actually suck if he ever starts playing since he has no supporting cast, and Robinson has already dropped to #3 because he’s a crybaby. So this team is like a good bread. Hard on the outside, but pretty gooey in the middle.
**4th and 19 (Wilson) **

Suggs and McGahee are some wonderfull 'if’s to have. McNabb needs a Limbaugh quote to get him playing up to his level this year. And Wayne is a good relief valve, but I think he went a tad early. McAllister is the lynchpin. If he pounds the ball like last year Wilson takes the autographed 8x10 color glossy.
T. Rex (Steelerphan)

Someone inform Steelerphan that there is an NFC. I hate Green but I love Hines. The rest is a nice blue collar group. Not stellar, but not glitzy.
Mundi’s Morning Blue

The Meshawn and Rice picks had me raise an eyebrow. Meshawn, Farve, Rice, Alstott…What will he do next year? Gonzalez and Plaxico are picks that this bastard stole from me. But those two are the only members of this team that really scare me. (Dunn does have his moments too). My dealer said Ricky’s going to the CFL.
**BithloMulletRevival **

I thought Franks and Davis were a couple of stellar late round pickups. Peyton’s a stud, and Robinson impresses. This team scares me. It’s solid enough to put points up regularly. Not one gut racking them up, but each guy getting a few. Each week. Week in and week out.
**Pentium None **

Homeritis gets me a great late round pick in Burleson that I’ll have to play with his #1, Moss. Good for when they play teams with no passing D, but in a bind due to homeritis. Vick is a BIG ol’ question mark, and Tiki is a small one. Roethlisberger could be my steal. Davis puts up something every week. I’m pretty happy with my draft, compared to last year when the computer picked for me.
Omni’s Omnipotents

If this team doesn’t scare everyone in the league, they aren’t paying attention. I may be kicking myself mightily for passing on McNair. If this were a money league, and I were playing safer, 3 members of Omni’s team would be mind. A solid solid draft, without much risk. For my sake, I hope we can say “blessed are the risk takers”. We may just say “Omni’s a fucker”. We’ll see.
Balls

I really wonder how Owens will do this year. I actually want him to fail, so I couldn’t bring myself to pick him, and neither did lots of other drafts. He could be the steal of this draft. And I really think Denny is going to try to make Fitz another Randy Moss rookie year, and the kid has the talent to do it too. The picks thinned out after that, but a really solid upper half.
New York Fanboys

Last year, the computer made my picks, and I thought it wasn’t possible to do worse. I was wrong. The good news is we each play him once. I really really hope I’m not the poor soul who’s unlucky enough to accidentily lose. But that might not happen.
Munch

Can’t go wrong with Jamal. But I think Barlow’s last year was a fluke. Coles is solid, but Jones has a crappy supporting cast. I might just envy every other pick in this draft. Bulger might just get better this year, and is a stellar keeper pick. But Foster has yet to make a TD in the regular season. Wierd. Every other.
derier

My homer instinct caused me to take Moss over Harrison, and I will live to regret it. And then my anti-homer sensabilities kicked in, and I passed on Bennett, which I may live to regret. The others I could take or pass. A good team, but not a big threat team.
Hamlet to be named

True, Moulds and CPep are solid, but I think Faulk is coasting to the end of his career and was a waste of a 1st round pick. But Duckett is a stud who will only be getting better, too bad his O-line is all screwed up. Looking back on all I’ve written, I’ve been negative to everyone. Well. To keep things consistant, you kicked my ass last year and you’ll suck this year. Except for CPep. homer instinct kicking in

Varlos

I really like Fred, and all Moe does is punch through for TDs. Jones was risky, but could be good, and a good choice for keeper. I’m not real high on your WRs though. And Brooks would be good if his team didn’t suck.

To anyone interested, come check out the SDMB Pick 'em and Survival leagues I set up:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5250629

I know someone was going to say this, that it was a homer pick, etc…, but I picked the Ravens D in round 4 because they posted 200+ points last year, and they got better in the offseason. Now, was there another player available in round 4 that’s going to put up 200+ points for the year? If not, why not pick up the Baltimore D here?

I really would have liked to get Barber and McCareins (sp?), but sadly I couldn’t figure out how to make it happen. Perhaps some draft day trades could have helped. It’s funny (to me, at least) that I actually took the time to set my draft order the night before, and then decided just before the draft to change it around when it came time to pick. I was going to pick the best players available in the first 5 or so rounds and then try to make trades for the guys I wanted. Then the 45 minute java download began.

Oh well, I got most of the people I wanted anyway. I live and die by New York, and half the fun for me is not having to root for other guys on other teams. A major dig I hear from people regarding fantasy leagues in general is that it reduces the fan’s vested interest in his (or her) real life favorite team. While I probably will go down in flames in the fantasy league, there will not be a single moment all season long where I will be rooting for anyone other than my teams. In my mind, that makes my draft justified.

As a side bonus, I have the ability to cause the most embarassing upsets all season long, and there are no expectations to fall short of. I will get some wins. Don’t let them be against you!

So, uh, who has Tiki and Justin? Interested in a trade for Garcia after the Jets’ bye week?

Losman is my hope for the future, and almost certainly will be my keeper. He had the best passing preseason of all the first round QBs drafted, and also scrambled for 80+ yards. Sure, he’s broken now, but next year he’s nothing but upside. No way will Bledsoe start next season. Am I crazy for this thinking?

Now my question. Assuming I wanted the following starters, would it have been possible to get them all? What would have been the best order to try and draft them in?

QB Chad Pennington
WR Santana Moss
WR Amani Toomer
RB Curtis Martin
RB Tiki Barber
RB/WR Justin McCareins
DEF Buffalo

I’d appreciate the help.

Wow, miss a whole preseason and it’s like I don’t even know your name. Amended for Jeremy:

QB Chad Pennington
WR Santana Moss
WR Amani Toomer
RB Curtis Martin
RB Tiki Barber
RB/WR Justin McCareins
TE Jeremy Shockey
DEF Buffalo

What would have been the right order to get all of them?

Since analysis for current rosters has been done, what do people think about the relative keeper potential of each team?
Rhinosaurs
Keepers?: T. Bell (7), Ro. Williams (8), and A. Boldin (9)

Those three might make for great value in the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds next year. Plummer (10) is also a possibility if he makes the proverbial leap this season.

Keeper Potential: 9 (1st)
Balls (Chitwood)
Keepers?: L. Fitzegerald (6), Reggie Williams (9), R. Ferguson (10), D. Carr (11), T. Hollings (15)

The latter three above have mediocre potential, but Fitzgerald and Williams could be major steals next year.

Keeper Potential: 8 (t2nd)

HamletToBeNamedLater
Keepers?: Andre Johnson (4), S. Jackson (6), J. Fargas (9), C. Perry (11), M. Smith (12), E. Parker (15)

Lots of potential at RB for next year, which is big in a league with 28 starting RB slots to fill. Andre Johnson would have to be at least a top 3 WR to be kept next year, probably.

Keeper Potential: 8(t2nd)

4th and 19
Keepers?: L. Suggs (4), J. Porter (5), W. McGahee (7), L. Evans (9), J. Harrington (12)

Lots of hit or miss players. Will the Lions and/or Bills offense come together? Will McGahee be 100% and have a starting job locked up somewhere? Will Suggs and/or Porter improve enough to worth 2nd and 3rd round picks, respectively? With so many chances, it’s likely at least a couple of these players will hit nicely.

Keeper Potential: 7 (4th)

Falcon Twists- Munch
Keepers?: D. Foster (6), Larry Johnson (11), C. Palmer (12)

Stephen Davis can’t have much left in the tank, so Foster could be a very good #2 RB for round 4 next year. Johnson is one Priest Holmes injury away from being the feature back in the league’s best offense. Palmer could be a big hit (or not, of course).

Keeper Potential: 6.5 (5th)

Varlols’ Zzzzzzz
Keepers?: K. Jones (4), K. Winslow (6), B. Leftwich (10), L. Toefield (14)

I did alright, but it’s going to be hard to get any superb values from this group. I think Toefield will start next year, and he’s insurance for Fragile Freddie this year, so I like that pick a lot.

Keeper Potential: 6 (6th)

Omni’s Omnipotents
Keepers?: J. Jones (5), P. Price (6), B. Loyd (7), J. Witten (11), M. Clayton (13)

Another hit or miss keeper crop but, while any and all of these could be good values next year, none (with the possible exception of Jones) have much home-run potential.

Keeper Potential: 5.5 (7th)

Pentium None
Keepers?: C. Rogers (5), B. Roethlisberger (14)

Rogers will probably be worth keeping w/ a 3rd rounder, as will Roethlisberger, but these are likely only to be good values, not great ones.

Keeper Potential: 4.5 (8th)

T. Rex
Keepers?: J. McCareins (5), A. Lelie (8), T. Calico (9)

Some potential to get good value at WR next year, but nothing too exciting there and no potential at other positions.

Keeper Potential: 4 (9th)

DerieerExtraordinaire
Keepers?: M. Bennett (4), D. Rhodes (14), R. Woods (15)

Bennett probably won’t be worth a #2 next year unless he starts getting the goaline carries. Rhodes has value if Edge gets hurt or let go in FA and the Colts don’t bring in a replacement. Woods could be a nice value next year , but he can only be so good unless Tim Rattay and the 49ers offense are much better than we expect. Nothing too exciting here.

Keeper Potential: 3.5 (10th)

Mundi’s Morning Blue
Keepers?: J. McCown (11), J. Gage (14), B. Watson (15), Ricky Williams (16)

McCown, Gage, and Williams are long-shots to be valuable keepers, while Watson is likely to be a good but unspectacular value in round 13 next year. I like Spiritus’ team this year, but next year he’s starting from scratch.

Keeper Potential: 3 (t11th)

New York Fanboys
Keepers?: L. Jordan (7), J.P. Losman (15)

Jordan should be a starter next year as should Losman, making both likely good values. Otherwise, the pickings are pretty slim.

Keeper Potential: 3 (t11th)

Baltimore Wierdos
Keepers?: T. Heap (5), E. Manning (10)

A 3rd round pick will probably be too much to pay for Heap next year, and I think the Giants have too far to come on offense for Manning to be a star next season (though he’ll probably be a pretty good value – and a very good keeper – next year in round 8). Other than those two, there isn’t anyone significant likely to be around next year.

Keeper Potential: 2.5 (13th)

BithloMulletRevival
Keepers?: C. Simms (15)

Simms could be a solid #2 QB next year. Other than that, I see nothing worth mentioning.

Keeper Potential: 1 (14th)

  1. They weren’t the best defense available.
    b) You had other, more important, spots to fill on your roster
    *) You probably could have waited 2 rounds.
    [ul]The total points scored by your Fourth Round draft pick was barely over 1 point a game from Varloszzzzz 13th round draft pick, and 2 points a game better than my 16th round pick.[/ul]
  2. It’s your team, and you picked somebody you wanted. You don’t need to explain yourself to anyone, and if you are happy with the draft, that’s fine. It’s not what I would have done, but you got a guy you really wanted. It will make the season more enjoyable for you, you’ll have more fun in the league, and it’s not like it’s costing you money. Those are good things, I think.