VA senate seat: Looks like Webb is toast to me

Backfire how?

Webb, admiteedly, ran a bad/weak campaign. If Allen stayed home, he’d probably have won. Instead, he decided to shove both feet in his mouth and bankrupt his political career.

Just saw it scrolling across FoxGnaws: “Will Democrat victory energize the GOP?”

We’re doomed. Woe! Woe! Whoa!

Did you see Stephen Colbert’s “The Word” yesterday? LOL!

VA senate seat: Looks like Webb is toast to me

Looks like Virginia may be welcoming their new Senator Toast, then…

If Allen actually does concede without dragging things out through a recount, I’ll be impressed- he’s a realist (everyone is saying a recount isn’t going to change things as much as he’d need it to) and a gentleman and, dare I say it, is being a mensch.

Whoooooosh!!

What difference does it make? We’re done voting.

“What the … !!!” indeed.

“What the … !!!” indeed.

I love the smell of toast in the morning. It smells like… victory! :smiley:

Allen is making his concession speech right now.

Republican Sen. George Allen has conceded defeat to Democrat Jim Webb, sealing the Democrats’ control of both houses of Congress and concluding a dramatic fall for a one-time top-tier presidential contender.

I was just there. Allen has indeed conceded the race. He was introduced by John Warner and he thanked his family and Warner and then he conceded the race. He said that he called Webb to wish him well.

He may still be talking but I had wanted to get back to the office. When I left, he was talking about Republican values. I was surprised by how little turnout there was. There couldn’t have been more than 100 people there and I suspect that a portion were people like me who work in the area and came by out of a sense of curiosity. Some of the people there must have been his staffers because I saw a young woman crying and quite a few of them looked rather upset.

…meanwhile, a furniture truck backs up to the well appointed offices of tobacco lobbying company with a delivery…inside, the windows are being measured for new drapes…

Is it against the rules to give semi-official nicknames to posters? You know, like in Animal House…Bluto, Pinto, Flounder, etc…

I propose that henceforth friend What the… be know as Toasty, in memory of this moment of, ah, prescience. And if its against the rules, I never said it, pretty sure it was Der Trihs, not me, nosirree…

Wouldn’t be surprised. The Dems have no good solution to the Iraq mess because there isn’t one, and that could come back to bite them in '08, as Stephen Colbert silently mused last night.

That’s precisely what they’re doing right now. Just listened to a Republican Senator (didn’t catch his name) saying the problem with the Democrats is they haven’t got a plan to get us out of Iraq. I mean, how long did it take, fifteen seconds, to implement the you-a culpa?

It’s not the responsibility of the House to come up with such a plan. The President got us into Iraq; it is his responsibility to get us out.

And if he doesn’t, within the next two years, then both parties (via their Presidential candidates) will have the opportunity to propose solutions.

Meanwhile, the responsibility of the House is to oversee the spending and to shine flashlights on the cockroaches who are profiteering on this war.

Not only isn’t there a plan, there* shouldn’t* be a plan. It is silly, stupid, and counterproductive to plan for a situation you have yet to completely assess. What we already know is bad enough, we have to know what they’ve been hiding from us. A bad plan is worse than no plan at all, much worse, it inhibits you capacity to respond to developments as they rot.

Getting out of Iraq is going to suck donkey balls, big time and downtown, there is no good way to do it. If there were a plausible plan for Iraq that would leave it as a reasonably governed nation with even a tolerable level of mutual animosity, I would be for it, Hell, who wouldn’t be? But how do you unscrew the pooch?

As it stands now, I favor instructing the military to move immediately in the direction of removal of all our troops at the earliest practical moment, with losses of material and prestige being of no importance in comparison to saving our troops any more futile bloodshed.

Some poor sonofabitch is sitting in Iraq* right now*, already destined to be the last man to die for a blunder, and I don’t know whether to cry or puke.

We owe much thanks to that Indian feller who got called a macaca and the person who captured that priceless moment own film. None of this would have happened without them.

If the Democrats came out witha comprehensive plan today, they’d get slammed for being arrogant and presumptuous for planning their agenda without talking to the Republicans.

Well, justly or not, it’s likely the price of victory that the Dems must fix Bush’s mess and risk (as I think is completely likely) being blamed for all of it if the solution is less than perfect. It’s clearly the Republican way, so I hope the old and new Democratic leadership is prepared for the inevitable.