Various bitching about bad drivers...

What the fuck is with these people?

  1. Just because it starts to precipitate a little bit doesn’t give you the right to cruise 5 MPH under the speed limit on the expressway. If you can’t handle the weather, get off the fucking road instead of creating a moving roadblock with the Semi that you are too nervous to pass, and too proud to drive behind. :mad:

  2. Just because traffic is light, doesn’t give you the right to ignore common driving etiquette. No, you can’t cruise in the left lane. Keep right, except to pass… It’s a very basic courtesy. Don’t go less then the speed limit in the left lane. Don’t drive the same speed as the person you are passing.

  3. If you are going to pass someone, fucking pass them already! It seems that whenever some Jackhole attempts to pass someone, it take them 5 fucking minutes, because they slow down as they get closer to the vehicle being passes. Again, with the moving roadblock… Assfuckers.

4)No, you can NOT cut in front of me, because you are stuck behind a Semi. You got yourself into that position, and you can stay the fuck there till I pass you. I’ve never been stuck behind a semi, know why? Its called anticipatory driving. Notice that “If I don’t get over soon, I’ll be stuck behind this semi” and do something about it, instead of trying to cut someone off at the last minute.

  1. If you tailgate me, because I am going to slow (if 85 is too slow for you), and I get over for you to pass me, fucking pass me you dick. Don’t ride in my blind spot till I come up on the next car, and have to hit the brakes so your inconsiderate ass finally passes me.

  2. TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING BRIGHTS! 'Nuff said…

  3. Use your fucking turn signal. If you are going any direction other then straight, in your own lane, use it. It’s not that hard. I use mine, and it takes about .0001% of my brain capacity to do so. And that still might be more then you have total.

  4. Mini vans… I have come to despise them, and everything they stand for to me. I think that you have to take an IQ test before you buy one, to make sure that it is less the 80, because GAWD knows that they wouldn’t want anyone thinking while they drive a car full of kids to soccer practice. In my whole life, I have seen maybe a half dozen sane mini-van driver. The rest make me want to take the bus.

  5. Don’t even get me started on SUVs.

  6. Semis: Is it really necessary for the semi going 61 MPH to pass the semi got 60 MPH in heavy traffic, and a 70 MPH freeway?

Grr… I feel better now though. Assfucks, all of them.

P.S. Any Minivan Dopers out there, you were prolly one of the 6, so no offense to you.

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The posted speed limit tells you how fast you are allowed to drive under ideal conditions.

Rain, fog, sleet, snow,etc are not ideal conditions.
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Yeah, I’ll agree with you on the others, but I slow down in rain or snow too. I always get a good laugh on the first snowy day as I see people speeding past me, then see them in the ditch a mile later. You’d think people would know how to drive in snow by now…hello? It’s Michigan. Unless you’re talking about people slowing to 5 under when one drop of rain comes, then that’s annoying. But if it’s bad weather, no one can make me go faster. I will stay in the right lane, though, so you can pass.

Everyone’s an asshole at some point when driving. Deal with it.

I’ve got to agree with points 2, 3 and 5, though.

As far as point number 9, I’ll counter with ‘Don’t even get me started on POS Chevy Sprints that can only get up to 60 mph going downhill with a stiff tailwind’.

This may be an urban legend or something, but when I was taking driver’s ed in school, I was taught that the road is most slippery right when rain begins, as oil and other substances that had soaked into/dried onto the pavement are being released. Not that I’d block a two-lane highway in the manner you mentioned because of this, but I’d definitely slow down.

Yah I have to differ on the slowing-in-inclement-weather part. Remember that very deadly pileup in Wisconsin? People driving 60mph in pea-soup fog with approximately 10 feet sight distance ahead? (I’m making up the figures, but you get the idea.) Dumb.

But I wanted to add a peeve. When you’re turning left at a traffic light with no left-turn arrow, waiting for the oncoming traffic to clear so you can go, pull out into the intersection while waiting - don’t sit behind the limit line. It amazes me how many people don’t know how to do this properly. In a big intersection, if one person chooses to hide timidly behind the limit line, that person is often the ONLY person who can turn left during that light cycle. The intersection usually has space for 3, 4 cars to wait safely until they can turn. The traffic in the other direction is not going to broadside you, see, cuz they are stopped at a red light.

Masonite, there’s one problem with your suggestion. In both California and Neveda, I have received tickets for turning left on a red because I was past the limit line for an entire green light and people sped up to make it through the yellow light instead of slowing down to stop. I’ll agree with you to a point, but with the following addition-Person behind me in left lane honking. I CANNOT GO! I know my cars capabilities and it cannot go 0 to 60 in two seconds, which is what I would need to do to make it between these two cars coming towards us. If I see an upcoming break in traffic, I will pull foward so I’ll be in position to turn when it’s safe.

How could you forget about CELL PHONES? Anyone talking on a cell phone while driving should dragged out of their car and beaten on the side of the road.

I live in Seattle, I have to agree with the rant about the rain, it rains here sometimes for a month or more straight, and everytime people slow down to as much as 10 under, I ain’t talking about monsoon kinda rain, I mean just plain old light rain the freeway is 4-5 lanes wide, and its not a friggin formula 1 race track, you could drive from seattle to tacoma at 100+ and never touch your brakes if you had no traffic. so please explain to me why a little water should slow you down 10-20 mph when you have good visability and good roads? if you have a reason thats fine but heres my request…GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE FAST LANE your’e causeing a dangerous situation when the 86th car has to pass you on the right you stupid fuck.

And then there’s Epson. What’s WITH them? They’ve had, like MONTHS now to get an OS X native driver out for their scanners, but no, they expect you to either buy a new one or boot into 9 every time you want to scan. And their printer drivers don’t support all the options

WHAT??!

Oh…never mind!

I drive a good distance on the Baltimore Beltway every weekday and I invariably come across a situation like this:
Instead of frantically accelerating and braking to keep exactly the same distance between my car and the car in front, as 99% of the drivers do, I will try to even out my speed curve - go a little more slowly at first so that when the driver in front of me has braked to a halt because he failed to realize that there has been a traffic jam surrounding him for the past 20 minutes, and it is not going away any time soon, I don’t have to do the same thing, or at least I can brake more gently. And in practice I don’t do exactly this – if the gap is getting too big I’ll speed up more quickly on the off chance that the congestion is clearing up. But why don’t the bubbling douchebags wrapped in swaddling ass who are riding my bumper realize this?!

It’s heavy congestion!! You can’t go through it without being a colossal, assholish danger to the people between whom you are weaving. So even though, yes, if I weren’t here, you could zoom up and fill that gap, it wouldn’t do you any good! If you were to just sit tight for a while, and realize that traffic can at times be a force beyond your control, you’d save both yourself and your car a lot of wear and tear!

When these fucks jerk their cars over into the next lane and end up gaining an average of …zero feet on me, I love it, repeat: LOVE IT.

Conversely, when I notice that the person behind me is keeping a safe distance, it warms the cockles of me heart.

D.E.S.K.Top668: You’re not waiting for a break in oncoming traffic; assume that break will never come. You’re waiting for the light to turn yellow or red and for the oncoming traffic to stop. Then you and the other cars in the intersection are free to go, and then, finally, the people in the other direction (who have been stalled at a green light for a few seconds now) are free to go. In super-busy intersections with no arrows, I believe this is how it’s supposed to work.

In the above situation, say you’re sitting behind the limit line because you’re afraid to pull out into the intersection. The break in oncoming traffic never comes until the light turns red - at which point, you are still behind the limit line, now sitting at a red light. You certainly can’t turn at this point. I have seen people wait through 2, 3, 4 entire light cycles doing just this, never ever turning left or letting anyone else turn left. Pull out into that intersection and hang out under the traffic light. It’s a good place to be. Remember the traffic in the other direction is not going to broadside you, even if they are inclined to run red lights, because they are at full stop only a few feet away from you. They’re not going to ram you on purpose. You’re safe.

Critical1: Seeing how I share the Seattle freeways with you, can I at least ask this favor: If I choose to slow down in the rain, moving my car into the right lane to avoid being rear-ended by people who choose not to slow in the rain, will you at least refrain from sitting RIGHT on my tail in the right lane when you’ve moved over there in preparation to exit? :wink: I understand your beef about driving slower than flow-of-traffic in the left lane, regardless of conditions. But some people won’t stop tailgating even in driving sleet, zero visibility, in the rightmost lane. Of course you are not one of these people. (They’re mostly in Bellevue, actually. :smiley: )

A few cites on stopping distance in rain - not sure how reliable these are; this is a rushed early-morning Google search:
From The online CDL Commercial Driver's License speed :

From pdca.com :

From http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/safety.nsf :

From http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/howto/articles/45401/article.html :

Sorry if this is all getting a bit pedantic, but, amazingly, there are quite a few people in Seattle who are simply not aware that stopping distance increases in wet or icy conditions. Since it’s wet most of the time in Seattle, this is kind of bad news.

Masonite, I’m not disagreeing with you how it’s supposed to work.
Unfortunately, the cops in both cases disagreed with me. Both times, I was in a busy intersection, past the limit line. The light turned yellow, the jerk coming the other way sped up to beat the light, and as soon as they passed I made my turn. I know it’s just bad luck that I got two jerk cops, but technically it was illegal
I do still usually pull out past the line, but there are several intersections I’ve turned at almost every day for two years and I pretty much know the light timing and the traffic patterns, and I can tell if I’m going to be able to make a turn on that light. If I’m pretty sure I can’t, I err on the side of caution (I really don’t need a third ticket for this). The people at those three intersections are the ones I was specifically ranting about.

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