What do you think, is Duncan gone for good? The montage at the end, with Duncan, Asprid and Vinnie riding along in the truck while Veronica looks at the ocean and music plays, gave me the feeling we won’t be seeing him again soon. If this was being played for shock value, I think it would have ended more on a cliffhanger, and without that extended sequence, like when Wallace left for Chicago. This felt more like goodbye to me.
And speaking of Wallace, interesting that he came back to Neptune because of an incident in Chicago rather than him missing V or his mother. I wonder how he was getting on with his father?
And I could say this about every episode, pratically, but I liked the use of recurring characters. Asprid (and I was wondering why her scene with Veronica was in the previouslys when the show started, but I had forgotten about it by the time the end came), Vinnie, and Sean all appeared, and it was nice to see them again.
wasn’t Vinnie the PI that Mrs Kane hired to follow Veronica? I thought V didn’t like him, why would she trust him with this sting?
Perhaps the reason Asprid (is that really her name? I thought it was Astrid with a “T”) decided to help is because she was fed up with being treated like a servant by Mrs Kane
Oops, yeah, it’s Astrid, not sure why I spelled it the other way.
Vinnie was the PI that Mrs Kane hired, but he also appeared in the season 1 episode “Kanes and Abel’s”. In that episode Keith mentions that he’s known for being sleazy and flipping sides in exchange for more money. Veronica doesn’t seem to like him, but I guess she knows him pretty well, and uses his greed to her advantage in this episode by offering him more money to help her and Duncan, and Vinnie does just that. The offer must have been made when she handed him a note that was purportedly for Duncan, which we see Vinnie read. And then when Duncan gets into the truck at the end, he hands Vinnie 30k and Vinnie says something like “you pay better than your mother”.
I THOUGHT the breakup at the beginning didn’t ring true. I’m glad they resolved that in this episode.
Wallace’s whole disappearance/reappearance has got me confused. They need to flesh out the plotline better. What happened to his Dad? Why has Alicia vanished off the face of the earth?
I wonder what the baby’s name legally is. The Mannings seem to have called her Faith, but Duncan called her Lily.
And I was SURE Duncan wasn’t the father. I kept waiting for that to be revealed, bt no luck.
I wa unsure about what the FBI found when they were looking for Duncan. What was so incriminating?
and boy, did she play Keith - but he did cover for her, so I guess they’ll be okay
Since they came back to that at the end of the episode, my guess is in the coming weeks, we’ll get to see what happened to them
It almost seemed like maybe it has yet to be revealed that Meg’s father is the baby’s father - gotta wonder about that whole abuse episode earlier this season
“Xena” and her sidekick found the tape recorder that (implied later) Astrid had with her in the mountains which was played over the cell phone when Veronica was called, and which (she knew) the FBI would trace
I don’t believe for one second that Duncan is gone for good. Last night’s ending was probably more about giving the producers an excuse for keeping him off the next several episodes (and thereby not paying the actor) than it was a final kiss-off.
I’m actually a little confused about who Astrid is. I joined the fun late in the game–started watching this past fall, after the season had begun–so I’m still trying to catch up with all the who’s who. Any help?
Some of the storytelling in this episode felt very disjointed. Weevil and Logan’s PI games were kind of fun, but I don’t think the writers have given us a compelling reason yet to care about who’s the turncoat in the PCHers. I’m sure it will become crucial somewhere down the line, but it’s not there yet. And the Wallace stuff didn’t have much impact (though judging by the preview it will become major in the near future).
The whole FBI agents thing didn’t go very well, either. Lamb’s a jerk and a clown, but it still seemed forced having the agents being ultra-snarky to the sherriff. With a few exceptions, law enforcement officials aren’t that bitchy with their colleagues. At least not walking in the door. And while I was looking forward to seeing her again, in my opinion Lucy Lawless didn’t add anything to her role–it could have been played by any actor.
All in all, I think this might be the first episode of Veronica Mars that I would call a disapppointment. Still, I enjoyed watching the show; there was enough good dialogue to spice up the hour. I really hope VM makes the cut for the upcoming CW network. I’d hate to see this show go.
She appeared in an episode this season, “Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner”, which was the one about Meg’s sister (I don’t remember offhand what episode number it was). She’s (or was, I suppose) Celeste Kane’s assistant. Veronica had a brief conversation with her in that episode because she thought Astrid might be Celeste’s illegitamate daughter (turned out instead that was Trina… only she wasn’t Celeste’s). How Astrid got roped into the kidnapping scheme, we’re not shown. Duncan or Veronica must have talked to her and convinced her to do it (and paid her?).
As for Duncan… Well, I’ll spoiler this to be on the safe side:
I looked around on a couple other boards, and the word is he’s out for now (and for good as far as anyone knows). Apparently the actor (Teddy Dunn) decided to leave the show and go to law school.
You actually confused me a bit more. I thought Trina (Alyson Hannigan, right?) was Trina Echolls, Logan’s sister. But you say she’s Celeste’s, but not really?..Ahh, clear as mud. Oh, well. Someday I’ll get the DVDs and figure it all out.
I just wasn’t made for all this soap opera plot line stuff…
As far as Duncan is concerned…
Law school! That boy’s out of his mind! I’d give a nut to be on an actor on a show like Veronica Mars. Like we need more lawyers. Sheesh!
The episode in question had to do with why VM’s mother got suspended. It was spreading a rumor about Celete Kane being pregnant. VM wanted to find out if the rumor was true.
I thought that the implication of that episode was that Astrid was indeed Celeste Kane’s daughter, but not the abandoned baby from the dumpster (who was Trina).
As we were watching, my wife said of the breakup scene, “that wasn’t in character for Veronica.” I said, “sure it was.”
Don’t I look like a fool. Of course, I won’t admit that to my wife. To survive a marriage, one must stick to one’s position, regardless of whether that position is right or wrong.
Sua
At least that’s what all my divorced friends tell me.
Thanks for the clarifications. I think I have an idea of who’s who now, at least in that thread of the story. And of course, you never really know with VM.
Hmm. I didn’t get that from that episode. From what I remember, at the time V thinks that the “prom baby”, the one who was left in the dumpster, is Celeste’s daughter. After she talks to Astrid she thinks Astrid may be the baby, because she’s about the right age, and Celeste hired her to be her assistant, and probably some other reasons I’m forgetting. So, she goes to a local family that served as the foster family for the prom baby for a few weeks, and the mother tells her that the baby was adopted by the Echolls. So then she thinks that Trina is Celeste’s kid. But that turns out to be wrong too, and Trina’s real parents are revealed.
There was a rumor that Celeste was pregant in high school, but after V figures out that the prom baby wasn’t Celeste’s, I don’t think there was any real evidence that Celeste gave birth. We don’t know if it was just an unfounded rumor, or something she made up to break up Lianne and Jake Kane, or what.
that may be revisited, tho. And wouldn’t it be a proper twist if Kendall turned out to be the baby Celeste put up for adoption? Of course, they would then have to clarify that Kendall never actually had sex with Duncan, even tho she slept in his bed.
So was no one else really annoyed by this episode? Not the performances or the action, but the motivation? If Duncan is the biological father, he’s as I understand the law automatically the next of kin. Meg’s parents would have little legal recourse in keeping the baby, and even if they tried Duncan has access to billions of dollars. He would bury them alive. And speaking of which, he had to have Veronica sell his mother’s earrings to get the money for this plan? And he’s worth how much money again?
