Yep. I voted for Haley today. Our Rep primary isn’t until the middle of March so who knows if she’s going to still be running, but it entertains me. I still have time to re-register Democratic to vote for Biden in the Dem. primary in July and then I’ll re-register as Independent for the General.
I don’t usually bother with this sort of thing, but I wanted to help twist the knife that trump has to be feeling now.
I’d be very surprised if your state allows you to vote in both primaries.
I live in Arizona.
Arizona divides its primaries into a “Presidential preference election” on March 19 and a primary for all other offices on July 30. If you’ve already voted for Haley, that was your sole vote in the Presidential primary.
I guess I just don’t understand what I’m doing here. I know I will be voting again in July and I know that Biden will be on that ballot so that means that yes, I will be voting for each party this year. I go for poll workers training in a couple of weeks, I ask them about it.
In MA I requested mail-in primary ballots and was given the option to get a republican prez ballot and a dem state races ballot (which I did).
Not sure how that works in other states (MA is open primary obviously).
This is the right answer.
Which one is more electable? Honestly I don’t know. But let them fight to the bitter end, let them bleed each other dry of funding, energy, and momentum, let them expose one another’s shortcomings. May the weakest one win.
Here is a reason to vote for Haley, per Politico:
Haley will arrive in Milwaukee in possession of a cache of delegates — how many is unclear; at the moment, she has 20.
The rules don’t simply give power to a candidate based on the number of delegates they possess. Candidates cannot have their names placed into nomination, and thereby get television airtime at the convention, unless they have a plurality of delegates in at least five states.
That threshold makes a big difference for Haley in terms of her clout — if any — at the convention. Modern political conventions have morphed into four-day long infomercials for a nominee whose identity has long been known. Every winner wants to use that platform to broadcast a structured, convincing message. Do that right and you can give your candidacy a significant, and perhaps decisive, bounce in the polls.
But that requires ensuring that there are no fights, or alternative messages coming from the convention floor — something winners cannot fully control. Defeated candidates can still deploy their delegates to obstruct the winner’s will by posing contentious amendments to the party platform or by using their nominating speeches to criticize the nominee. That can become news, and prospective nominees will cut deals to prevent that from happening.
Against that backdrop, Haley’s continued campaign makes a great deal of sense. The more delegates she can acquire, the more power she can exert on the floor. And the more power she can exert on the floor, the stronger hand she has to deal from to get concessions from former President Donald Trump on things she cares about, such as U.S. support for NATO. Indeed, given that the party did not even write a platform in 2020, simply insisting that it draft a new one for this election might be a significant request.
Personally, I think she was waiting/hoping for Trump to disappear via a plea deal. Now that it appears his cases will certainly be delayed long enough, I don’t think he’ll do that and Haley will drop out soon.
But vote for her until she does drop out.
Here’s the thing though — Haley won’t necessarily get to choose who her delegates will be. Rules differ by state party, but usually it’s party committees or local and state convenings that decide who specifically will be sent to the RNC. Those delegates pledged to Haley will be required to vote for her on the first ballot, but they are not obligated to her in any other manner.
It’s not Michigan but, FWIW:
While it doesn’t mean much in the bigger scheme of things I am willing to bet this will bug Trump to no end so there is some value to this.
One of the provisions of the RNC rules is that delegates who were bound to a candidate who withdraws from the race are unbound and can vote for whomever they like. Regardless of technicalities over whether “suspending” is the same as “withdrawing,” the vote for Trump will almost certainly be unanimous or by acclamation on the first ballot. He’ll insist on it.
Will people be required to line up and lick his taint?
In the past, both parties have rejected attempts to prevent, or interrupt, the roll call for President by calling for a vote by acclamation. This is the only chance each state gets to promote its candidates on TV, even if it is only on cable. They might pull a trick out of the 2012 book, and when each state reads off its votes, the secretary only confirms the votes for Trump; also, there usually is a voice vote to name the nominee “by acclamation,” and as the Republicans only need a majority for it to pass (Democrats need 2/3 to suspend the rules), it invariably passes, even in the close Ford-Reagan vote of 1976.
Run Nikki!
Donald Trump 795,412 76.2%
Nikki Haley(Dropped) 211,453 20.3%
This really is a useless election because there are only two people running on the national level now. It is really fun to see that over 20% percent of us voted for a non-runner than Honest Don.
Blood pressure getting high yet, donnie?
She’s still getting votes. No idea what this will mean on election day. but it’s interesting. I wonder how much effort the Biden people will devote to pulling them toward voting for him to the extent possible. It’s money on the table, so to speak.
So she sold out. Color me unsurprised. Nevertheless, she did not persist.
Linky, in case someone wants a news reference.
Is Haley’s calculus that in the immediate post-Trump political world … conservative voters would still hold failure to support Trump against her?
I realize that Trump’s affect on the conservative electorate won’t disappear immediately once he’s off the stage … but surely the shelf life of that affect will be reasonably short? Will there be Trump-support purity tests in 5-10 years (assuming Trump loses in November 2024)? Will Republican primary candidates (for President or for other federal offices) still be having to answer “Was Biden fairly elected President in 2020?” in the 2030s and 2040s?
What’s her strategy now? Mr. Trump dies before the general? Hope there are enough dissatisfied voters to get her 270 EVs via write-in? Haley 2028?