Voting for Haley in primary {March 3, 2024, she suspended her campaign, did not endorse Trump}

Yes and she’s correct to think so. There is no post-Trump political world. Conservatism IS Trumpism and has been for almost a decade now. It will be for at least another decade more.

Yikes. That’s going to be a hard reckoning for American conservatives.

No it isn’t. They love Trump.

But he’s not immortal.

The conservative voter of the 2040s is … still going to be casting lonely eyes to a (virtually certainly) long-deceased figure?

This is a hijack, but could be interesting to muse in a new thread.

:cough: Reagan :/cough:
And on the other side; Kennedy, and despite them not being dead yet, Clinton, and Obama.

Sold out suggests that Haley is getting something out of this. (The future will tell.)
I prefer to think of this as her attempt to buy in.
Sadly (for her), she isn’t even going to get a used Trump NFT.

She thinks that if she kisses the ring she’ll get back into good graces with the rabid GOP base. I don’t think she’s right. She has already lost her political future, may as well keep her integrity. But she has Potomac Fever, the only cure for which is embalming fluid.

It’s a very tepid endorsement. Not really an endorsement at all. As a republican she signs her political death warrant if she says she’s going to vote for Biden. Now she’s saying she will vote with the party while still bringing up the issues she spoke about in the campaign. She will only be 56 in 4 years and wants to be the candidate. If Trump wins she lays low. If Biden wins she still gets to be a viable future candidate and a voice for the party. Politically it’s probably her only move.

There are those in their community who are still whinging about the “Lost Cause” of the US Civil War, so yeah, they can drag this out a bit. If Trump loses, everything that happens between that, and the next GOP Presidency, will be blamed on those who “Stabbed Trump in the back” by not supporting him fanatically enough.

I don’t think I explained myself well.

I don’t mean remembering someone respectfully, or even invoking a past figure as an inspiration. I mean full-on “Are you Trumpist enough?” purity tests living on much longer after Trump effectively leaves public life and/or passes away.

I don’t recall, for example, Bill Clinton or Barack Obama having to publicly say “the right things” about John F. Kennedy, or being politically constrained from saying critical about JFK. Same for, say, McCain or Romney regarding Reagan.

I just got my sample ballot for our meaningless June4th primary. On the Republican side there isn’t even a chance to make a protest vote for Haley. Trump is the only candidate on the ballot.

Just another coward looking out for herself.

Here’s hoping that a good number of those Haley supporters were first and foremost Trump opposers, and that they’re willing to prove it.
Unlike Haley herself.

Interesting, on my ballot (Kentucky, primary election was Tuesday of this week), there was a name I didn’t recognize, Trump, and half a dozen or so names I did recognize, and an opportunity to choose “uncommitted” instead.

I voted for Haley, as a vote for more women and minority candidates in general, and not because I have any sort of a positive impression of her.

(I should also admit that I almost didn’t bother voting, but there was a very local office as the other thing to decide on in my precinct, so it was worth my time and energy to vote in both races as long as I was voting in one).

(I am a registered Republican because my parents both used to be registered Republicans, and I didn’t understand that that was because we lived someplace were Democrats were mostly in charge, and so voting Republican was some sort of a protest vote. Also, I’m too lazy to change. So I usually vote mostly for Democrats in the general election).

On the democratic side there is one name I don’t recognize.

You are also in Kentucky, right?

Marianne Williamson or Dean Phillips?

I voted for Phillips in the Pennsylvania primary beauty contest, but also voted for Biden’s delegates.

If I still was a Republican, I guess I would have voted for Haley in the primary.

IIRC Loach is NJ hardcore.

@Loach being from Kentucky did make me chuckle a bit.

Meanwhile Trump has said that Haley will have a place on his team “in some form” after her saying she’d vote for him.

And, there’s an Uncommitted “Justice for Palestine” line, too, right? I’ve never noticed an Uncommitted option in NJ before.

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