WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers

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I’m doing a rewatch now, and a couple of things I have noticed:

Mr Hart did not take a bite of food before he started choking.

It looked like Vision pulled a strawberry from his throat.

As demonstrated in Infinity War, Vision’s head is not indestructible.

Seven people leave Dottie’s house (including Wanda and Agnes), but eight are at the county club. When did Geraldine arrive? Perhaps on the helicopter?

“Uh… Geraldine” is confused as to why she’s there.

The commercials reuse the same actors. Perhaps they’re connected.

There is a butterfly mobile and open staircase in the animated credit sequence of the second episode, which appear in the third episode. The house is also different from the ones in the first episode’s sequence. I’ll need to make note of the third episode’s credit. There was also a pair of glasses that match Vision’s glasses in the third episode. I think the credits might be hints as to the next episode. Definitely paying attention now.

“I thought I had super-speed.” Vision doesn’t have super-speed. Wanda’s brother did. I’m beginning to doubt this is really Vision.

Stupid aside. My mother had a Mix master stand mixer, just like Wanda’s.

Yes, the same actors are in the commercials.

“Small towns. So hard to escape.” That was the look of a desperate man.

Okay, Wanda definitely had her Sokovian accent the whole time she was remembering Pietro.

It’s like a dream. The closer she comes to the surface, the less of an American accent she has.

Watching episode 3 credits now. Will transcribe the images.

Still circa mid eighties CRT pixels. There’s the rose that has ben present since episode 1. Same glasses again. Maybe they’re irrelevant. Same gazebo and watertower from the last episode. Maybe I’m not onto something. Yeah, okay. Too much whiskey and too many grey cells looking for things that don’t look to be there.

Drat.

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I was trying to determine what that was he choked on, it did look oddly uniform in shape. A chocolate covered strawberry was mentioned at the top of the show and that would make some sense. If so, good catch.

Not sure I agree here. Of course, I’m not sure indestructibility was ever really canon, but his head was only really vulnerable when the stone was removed. Of course, it was always pretty odd how easily he was whipped by Corvus in the early going…but that’s another discussion.

I think it’s clearly not the real Vision. The only scenario where it could be is if a) this is an alternate timeline or something or b) somehow during Infinity War when they are trying to extract the Mind Stone they were backing him up and reconstituted him from that. Both seem really unlikely.

Also, because the super-powers seem to be pretty fluid in the MCU, especially with Vision, Wanda and Captain Marvel, whether Vision has something close to super-speed is to me an open question. Maybe it’s related to Quicksilver, but maybe it’s just inconsistent storytelling that would be inline with the sitcom motif.

Incidentally, I find it a little odd that there aren’t any mid-roll or post-credits sequences. Because of how far below the surface the real story is, it almost seems like an essential element here that’s missing.

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My working hypothesis is that it’s Vision but he’s incomplete. Wanda was trying to resurrect him, but he was very badly damaged, so there wasn’t enough there for a clean recovery, which is a big part of why she fabricated this fantasy. His current incarnation is only partially functional in certain respects, and in other respects has had key gaps “filled in” with details from other people with whom Wanda was close, a la the frog DNA in Jurassic Park (example: Pietro’s super-speed). In other words, it’s him, but it’s not all of him.

When the reality bubble breaks, I’m pretty sure we’ll see Vision on a robot-life-support table, or something similar.

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New random thought: In the magic show given by Wanda and Vision in the second episode, the centerpiece trick, and the grand finale, focuses on that rolling-closet reappearing-person illusion.

In the show, they start with an empty closet. There’s some actual magic. And then a person comes out.

If one were inclined to read this magic show as a veiled, distorted metaphorical memory of whatever real-world ritual resulted in Wanda becoming a mother — the “for the children” chant, plus Vision being literally unable to “perform” — then it’s tempting to see the central component of the show as a key element.

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So I have no idea if this will have any relevance or not, but the continuity checker was extremely careful to make sure that the right point of Vision’s collar was always outside his sweater. Given that the human Vision & Vibranium Vision scenes were certainly filmed on different days, that had to be on purpose.

BTW, the only thing that was rang false about the 70’s set was the green appliances. The 70s were notorious for avocado green kitchen decor, but those were way too bright, more of a lime green than avocado.

Well, there’s no Mind Stone in our reality anymore. But presumably Shuri was backing up all the data from her incomplete attempt to separate Vision from the Mind Stone, so they may be using that to reconstitute Vision.

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I have been thinking about that. The Infinity Stones were formed from “six singularities from before the Big Bang.” Could such a thing really be destroyed? I would imagine they would reform eventually.

Five years is rather quick for such a thing to happen, though.

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As I recall, Thanos’s direct quote was that they had been “reduced to atoms.”

On the one hand, that sounds pretty definitive and final.

On the other hand, comics.

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For actual comics, where there are dozens of titles each needing 12+ issues per year, plus specials, crossovers, etc. etc., going on for decades, sure the writers keep dipping into the same well. But I really really hope that with only a need for 2 movies per year plus a few Disney+ series, they’ll decide the Infinity Stones storyline is as dead as Uncle Ben.

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I think the official word from Feige is that “reduced to atoms” mean they still exist, but not in any usable form.

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I’m just now watching episode 3, and Elizabeth Olson has the perfect “60s sitcom” timing and approach. It’s like she’s made for this role.

Do we have any idea HOW this leads into the second Dr.Strange? I imagine this season takes place inside the Multiverse, but is it all a creation to help her cope with the loss of Vision?

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This is the theory I’ve been going with. If you watch the Legends episode for Vision, they spend a decent amount of time on the idea that it might be possible for Vision to survive without the stone. Banner has that “maybe the best part” line about what would be left of Vision without the stone.

When the crowd was chanting “what’s in the box” I had a two-second hope that it would be Pepper Potts as a Se7en homage. :grin:

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Just thought I’d point out, since we genre fans love our thespians, that the actress playing Dottie (the boss of the neighborhood) is… Anya from Buffy. I never would have recognized her in a million years.

Will she get to sing and dance? We can only hope so.

One thing that I noticed, although I don’t know what it means, is that there’s a sped-up-time motif, The whole pregnancy thing went by super fast. But also, she’s jumping forward a decade in tv-stereotype-time every episode. Related?

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I just wish Dottie had shared some screen time with Señor Scratchy.

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I loved the DVDS in reruns as a kid. Tried to rewatch it a few years ago, and MAN, Rob was a jerk. And the sexism is pretty painful.

Just I’d always thought of Rob Petrie as this all-around nice guy. Sorry I don’t remember specifics, but on rewatching, he wasn’t. I’m sure some/much of it reflected the times. But painful to see someone as bright, talented, and effervescent as MTM talked down to so much. And poor Sally.

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The actress who earned Dotty’s displeasure for inadequate attention to chairs is Jolene Purdy who played Cherita in Donnie Darko (the girl who wore earmuffs and told everyone to shut up).

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None. But I believe Benedict Cumberbatch might possibly make an appearance at some point, so my guess is he’ll be called on to mentor Wanda, ongoing.

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The best antidote to death. Just ask… wow, I can think of a dozen; Jean Grey, Elektra, Jason Todd, a couple of Flashes… and Supes hisself!

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They hung a lampshade on that in an issue of X-Men a year or so ago. The mutants have developed a method that allows any mutant who has died to be reborn, and when Jean greeted several newly-resurrected mutants, she mentioned (paraphrasing), “I’ve come back from the dead a lot.”

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She was also in Orange Is the New Black as a bodyguard for Piper, and being the person who suggested the peaceful protest that ended up getting Poussey killed.

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Good to know she is still getting work. She also made a brief appearance in Breaking Bad as a gas station cashier who trades gas for meth.