WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers

Also we had the idea in our house that they should do a Batman 1966 episode, and that’s a fun one to imagine. :grin:

Nope. And I’m predicting it’s Agnes’s yet-unseen husband.

Based on what Darcy was saying, it seems to me like like we’re seeing the “wrong” episodes. Like normally the boss doesn’t choke.

Edit: And another point, this is apparent just a few weeks after Endgame. So for Wanda, Vision just died.

Darcy didn’t see Dottie’s blood (or at least didn’t react to it).

Indeed. I couldn’t remember some of the details of Infinity War and Endgame, so I had to look them up. A quick summary, for those who haven’t seen those movies, or don’t remember all the details.

  • The yellow gem in Vision’s forehead is (was) the Mind Stone, one of the Infinity Stones (which was, earlier, used by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker to give Wanda and Pietro their powers)
  • Near the end of Infinity War, during a battle in Wakanda, Thanos pulled the Mind Stone out of Vision’s forehead, apparently killing him.
  • A few moments later, Thanos executed “The Snap,” which killed half of all life across the galaxy, reducing them to dust. Wanda, who was by Vision’s side, was among those who were “dusted.”
  • Five years later, during Endgame, the Avengers were able to undo “The Snap,” and bring back everyone who had been dusted – their return is now referred to as “The Blip.” To the returned people, it is as though no time has passed between their death and resurrection (as illustrated by Monica’s confusion when she is blipped back into existence in the hospital).
  • However, Vision was, as far as we know, not restored in The Blip, as his death wasn’t a result of The Snap.
  • A short time after The Blip (probably a matter of hours, at most), the Avengers, and many other heroes, fought and destroyed Thanos; Wanda took part in that battle, as did many others who had been resurrected in The Blip.
  • Prior to the events in WandaVision, Wanda was last seen in the MCU at Tony Stark’s funeral at the end of Endgame, which presumably took place within a few days after the battle with Thanos.

So, yes, the psychic wound of Vision’s death is still very new and raw for Wanda.

It was good to see Darcy back! She was one of the best parts of Thor.

And, she finally has a last name! :smiley:

I think the “show” skipped there. But I’ll have to replay to be sure.

Don’t forget, she was about to take down Thanos all by her lonesome until he called his ship to fire indiscriminately upon the battlefield.

Indeed. I visibly recoiled when they cut to the close up of his dead face. I’ve only seen Infinity War and Endgame once so didn’t really remember the details of his death (now I do) so that was quite shocking and unexpected. The thought that she is literally animating his actual corpse… shudder

That was a great episode! I am very glad now that I stuck with it.

Yes, the show skipped there. Darcy heard Woo’s voice coming through the radio, then there was a noticeable skip/glitch in what she was watching, and then Dottie was acting normally. The broadcast Darcy saw skipped over Dottie breaking the glass, cutting her hand, being confused about who and where she was, and making the comment about housewives getting blood out of white linen.

Particularly at the start of Endgame, right? Captain Marvel comes back to Earth to deal with Thanos, and it doesn’t come up that SWORD exists and her best friend runs it? It’s strange enough that I wonder whether there are some multiverse shenanigans happening or something. Or, maybe it’ll just be handwaved away and never addressed.

Yes! I love that he finally mastered the trick that he was trying to learn in the two Ant Man movies.

I really liked this episode a lot, and like many here I thought Vision’s reactions were interesting. Of course, that could be a manifestation of Wanda’s own uncertainty, but if you think about how he evolved from AI to sentient/independent life form, it could just be a parallel to that where he’s evolving past her imagination, and she’s essentially bringing him back to life that way, intentionally or not.

Actually (rewatching) Darcy hears the breaking glass, sees Dottie looking panicked/confused/distressed at hearing Woo’s voice, sees an obvious cut/glitch, and then hears the “bloodstain out of white linen” joke. And Darcy even remarks that it was weird.


(down a slightly different path) Is SWORD supposed to be the bloodstain in the white linen that Wanda needs to take care of herself?

The bloodstain is supposed to be the real world intruding on and spoiling the illusion.

You forget that the majority of viewers are not jumping onto the internet to hash out the episode with their online friends, picking through details and assembling speculative predictions based on close analysis of movie clues and comic-book precedent. We, in this thread, are ahead of the show, and the reveals here are basically, as you say, confirmation of what we already suspected.

But that’s not how this works for most people watching the show. They’re tuning in, they’re having fun, they’re wondering what’s going on, and this episode will have blown their minds.

This was an episode I have been waiting for, and kind of dreading. Assuming my interpretation (posted at length above and in the previous thread) is correct, or at least close, which it seems to be, there will be a huge amount of exposition required to explain it to the audience. This is mainstream entertainment, remember, not rarefied narrative targeted exclusively to the cognoscenti. Based on the first three episodes, I knew the show would have to, sooner or later, stop and sit the viewer down and lay out the basis for the mystery, and the setup leading into the current situation.

That kind of thing is usually narrative death: remember the final-season episode of Battlestar Galactica where two characters sit in a room for ten solid minutes and explain to each other what’s been happening for the last thousand years? Awful. I love that show and will defend almost all of it, through to the ending, but that one exposition-dump episode is painful just to think about. I knew something like that would be mandatory here, and I was twitching and gritting my teeth with negative anticipation.

So when this episode finally does arrive, I’m actually somewhat surprised and pleased that they came up with a relatively painless way to deliver the obligatory mechanical info-dash. First, they do it as a flashback, showing us new details as the characters are discovering them, so it’s more narrative than just pointing at a board and doing a briefing. And second, they bring back two characters we know reasonably well and have some affection for, so they pull us through that information delivery with their charm and humor.

It’s a good episode, basically, because it’s smartly constructed. It’s not great, because this kind of info-dump can’t be great. But it could have been so, so much worse.

Huh. I would have sworn the cut/glitch skipped past that. Wait…am I seeing an edited version of reality?! :wink:

Re-watching that bit myself just now: Darcy sees Dottie looking panicked/confused/distressed, and hears glass breaking, but then the “show” cuts/glitches to Dottie making the comment about “bloodstain out of white linen”. She doesn’t see the broken glass, the red blood on Dottie’s hand, or hear Dottie’s panicked/confused/distressed questions about who and where she is.

Right. And Darcy notices what we know is a skip as something odd having just happened. Also noticing the sudden cut in the show when “Geraldine” is there to the end credits, with our now getting to see more than we saw the first time we saw it, seeing, briefly, Vision as a corpse walking around, with Wanda quickly covering that image over with reanimated Vision in full color, not to worry she has everything “under control”.

It was cool to see what the “reverse snapture” actually looked like. I believe that was all off screen in Endgame.

It was - and only partially onscreen (no real detail) in Spiderman Far From Home.

That would have to have had quite a few holy shit moments - when something comes back where something currently is.