Seconded. Everything I’ve written stands, with the substitutions described above. Although your backtracking efforts in this thread are giving me some much needed comedy to get me through what’s left of my workday.
Absolutely untrue. You may face consequences if you choose to be rude in response, but you have that option. And frankly, if your customer is being egregiously rude and your superiors won’t back you, then you should find new superiors.
Liar. In the coffee thread, you said
followed by such statements as
You later flip-flopped and claimed that those were imaginary actions, but the OP (and your defence of it, until you realized just how marginalized you were) unambiguously claimed those as actual actions.
I’d like to chime in and state that, having worked several summer jobs in food service, and having years of food service (waitstaff) experience in the family - the absolute worst food tampering I ever heard of actually happening when any of us were present was a guy adding a little bit of pickle juice to the “hold the pickles” hamburger of a real asshole.
People in food service love to swap food-tampering stories, but it is anything but normal.
Further, I don’t act like an ass in restaurants, but a small mistake (like putting money on the counter instead of in your hand) doesn’t give you the moral right to fuck with someone’s food.
Frankly, the only one who sees “such naked, unmasked hostility toward those in service professions” on the SDMB is you, VCO3. Maybe you could stop being a toolbox for about five minutes and read that thread again, and see for yourself.
My most recent ex was a waitress from 17-24, my old roommate was a cook from 20-25, and two more of my friends were both waitresses for several years… not a single one of them had ever witnessed or heard of anyone ever tampering with someone’s food in such a way. In fact, they informed me that this was probably the stupidest thing someone in the food service industry could do, as word gets around and they would find it extremely difficult to get another job. Granted it’s hearsay, but these guys would have no reason to embellish.
What I want to know is what’s to stop an aggravated customer from spitting in their own food and blaming it on the waitstaff? If it happens as commonly as has been proposed, surely the manager would be hard-pressed to deny the possibility?
Re-read what I said, it stands. You said it, and I say “fuck you” for being ok with the idea. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and vigilante justice isn’t allowed in this country.
I worked in a mall that was legendary (in every organization that had a branch there) for its appalling customers. We couldn’t keep staff because as soon as they transferred from other stores, they quit because of the constant abuse. I only stayed on because I was hired there and I didn’t know that customers didn’t always snap their fingers at you, and try to make you cry, and generally make your life as difficult as possible. I never lost my cool, but I saw some spectacular flamouts by some of my fellow mall employees …
But those people weren’t in that thread!!!
Not a single one of those quotes has anything to do with spitting in a drink.
9 years as a bartender, VC03, and I can honestly say you wouldn’t have lasted a single shift at any establishment I worked, because the other staff would have dealt with you rather than leaving you for a customer.
People like you take money out of the pocket of every decent tip-worker with your surly, disrespectful, criminal actions.
I guess that’s why I find it hard to believe a single word you say. Because I don’t know any full time worker in the service industry that would tolerate you being on the same floor as them.
please don’t. the board would crash.
Oh, I see what you mean. You seemed to think that I had engendered the “engagement ring discussion.”
I would be 100% comfortable with pawning that ring instead of throwing it into a dumpster to watch the girl “dig through the trash while crying in her high heels.” Where’s the outrage at THAT guy?
VCO3,
What would you do if I (an AA woman) came to your restaurant, and LOUDLY (as loud as I could - not my inside voice at all) ordered any beverage except coffee since “we” don’t drink it?
Would that be a spittable offense?
This right here is why you’re coming across like such a stupid asshole. No one has expressed the attitudes that you’ve ascribed to the majority. So gleefully crowing about how people are going to suffer for their mistreatment of waiters and how your informing them of this is going to shake them to their core makes you look like a complete dumbass. Nothing new for you, to be sure.
I blame the biscuits.
I kept misinterpreting “AA” as “Alcoholics Anonymous” and was deeply confused for a while…
My post to you still stands; just replace “spit” with the list of other things you say you do. I’ll give you that, on a practical scale of potential retribution, the employee has a lot more to lose in that moment than the customer, but that’s true on both sides of the revenge coin.
I’ll give an example. When I was GM at a local sandwich restaurant, I had a waitress completely lose it on a table of people who, it turned out, had been being utter asses to her all evening (though I hadn’t witnessed it, this was verified by other employees and one kindly customer who’d been observing their behavior). Full-on stream of pure emotion, complete with tears, screaming, and even a small bit of profanity. What did I do? I listened to what had happened, sent her home after the customers left, told her to come back tomorrow, and spent an hour or so the next day talking to her about why she’d done that, and making sure I could trust her to keep her cool in those situations (and if not, to come get me, since I was paid to deal with that kind of shit). Her confidence seemed boosted, my confidence in her was restored, and I never had another problem with her.
Now, if I ever caught a cook fucking with the food? Bye-bye.
Rudeness is straightforward, detectable, and therefore potentially manageable; sneaky underhanded “vengeance” tactics are not. If I can’t trust you not to drop steaks on the floor behind customers’ backs, what can’t I trust you to do behind mine?
If your sense of right and wrong doesn’t tell you why doing those things is fucked up – and I would sincerely hope that it would – there’s at least one reason for you why you might be better off avoiding it.
I think that if people don’t want to drink alcohol, they’re entitled to order whatever they want to in a restaurant. Why should they feel pressured to drink?
I have never spit in, nor claimed that I have spit in anyone’s drink.
It’s not just that thread, though the attitudes of “i don’t HAVE TO FUCKING TIP” and “FUCK THE SERVER - he’s there to SERVE ME!” were certainly prevalent there. It’s any time a thread like this comes up on the board. ANY time someone working in a retail or service position has the AUDACITY to complain about the customers, the SDMB “fuck ‘the help’” squad comes out in droves.
Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. Let it be know that spitting in a drink is the only form of tampering that can possibly occur. That is all.
Wow, look at you squirm! I figure the asshat who threw the ring in the dumpster has, or will get their cosmic beating in due time. I hope Karma has it’s slow, painstakingly detailed excruciating way with them as well. However, you have repeatedly said you’d sell the ring. That’s theft. I really, really don’t like thieves. (ETA: Not even those who give the appearance of being one as part of “tough guy” talk.) FUCK YOU PRICK!