[spoiler]Rorschach throwing boiling oil into the face of a fellow prisoner, and the fantastic, “I’m not in here with you. You’re all in here with me.” line).
Assuming we do get to see his psychiatric sessions, I’d actually love it if the portions with his psychiatrist at home and the effect that analyzing Rorschach has on him are kept. Those are some of my favorite moments of the story. And, of course, thematically it’s quite important at the end that he breaks off a conversation with is wife in order to help a woman being beaten on the street.[/spoiler]
Interesting. I wonder how much they’ll include of each.
Moloch’s murder, after all, is how the police catch Rorschach, so I can see why they’d want to keep that in. I wonder if they’ll keep the Comedian drunkenly breaking into his apartment?
Thinking about it, I suppose a lot of the more minor stuff wouldn’t be difficult to include in a long movie. I’m wondering if we’ll see some stuff like the death of Dollar Bill.
I do hope they preserve all of the interaction between Silk Spectre and her mother.
Well, Larry, I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t. I mean, cut that line and you might as well cut everything. If the director thinks he can cut that line we’ve got another League of Extraordinary Gentlemen -> League of eXtraordinary Gentlemen fiasco on our hands.
Huge Watchmen fan here (best comic of all times). I just read the novel for the 4th time and I’m still discovering new things to like that I missed before. It’s truly an incredibly rich and layered work of art.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched the trailer. My favorite part is the flag unfolding at the funeral and the music at that point. It fits so well. Ozymandias doesn’t quite look the part imo but the silk specter costume looks fantastic.
You can watch it in all its glory in 720p (or 1080p if you have the horsepower) here. It’s worth it. And if you are hungry for more info, I recommend you watch the videojournals here.
I was disappointed by snyder’s 300 (i thought the comic was significanly better) so I am fearful of the final result. Great visuals don’t mean squat afterall. I’m not Cisco, however, and I haven’t had a reason to give up on it so here is to hoping this is the movie that proves Alan Moore wrong.
You’re wrong, but not in the way you hope you are. No matter how noble anyone’s intentions were when this project began, the producers will ensure that the final product appeals to the Michael Bay-loving douchebags. And they will convince the filmmakers that this is The Right Thing To Do. And the filmmakers will sell it to the public as The Best Possible Adaptation That Could Have Been Committed To Film, With Barrels And Barrels Of Reverance Given To The Source Material. And critics who have never heard of the book as of right now will rave about How Faithful It Is.
All I have to say to the filmmakers is: prove me wrong.
Because I was reading a review of The Dark Knight this week and the reviewer was saying it was a surprisngly good movie - the surprise being that it was based on a comic book, which he clearly believed is a simple-minded entertainment with no depth. Which proves he’s not familiar with the genre as it’s existed for the last few decades.
People see TV and movies and they form judgements from what they see. The people who watched the Batman TV series in 1966 were convinced that was the definitive Batman and didn’t change their mind until they saw the movie Batman in 1989. The comic book lost an entire generation of readers who dismissed the character as being a campy joke. People see a mindless sit-com based on a comic book and they’ll keep watching other sit-coms but they decide comic books are mindless.
I don’t blame Alan Moore for being pissed at the film adaptations of his work. How would you like it if people judged a book you wrote by a movie like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? How many people do you think assumed the book was as bad as the movie was and not worth reading?
Watchmen is a classic of the genre. But after next year what people will think about when they hear Watchmen will be the movie. If the movie sucks, people will think Watchmen sucks. Moore knows that the reputation of his book could be ruined forever by a movie he had no control over.
It was near the end when I realized I was holding my breath, and then I sort of squeeked/whined. I was utterly floored.
I’d seen some of the stills, but this …
So many relevant scenes right there in the trailer … Comedian in 'Nam, Night Owl’s craft looks perfect, Dr. Manhattan in multiple as he works in the lab … and yes, I agree … MARS! Absolutely, brilliantly gorgeous.
Hey, I resent that.
You can like explosions AND nuance.
A little bit more difficult to pull off in one movie, granted,; nevertheless, perhaps adopting a “wait and see” attitude rather than a “Randy-Quaid-In-Major-League-2” attitude might make the days pass more smoothly.
It’s bad in the sense that I was talking about the fanboys, not the movie itself. When LOTR came out, all of the halfway sensible Tolkien fans loved the films. The obsessive fanboys HATED it…every LOTR internet site and newsgroup was full to the gills of wankers and whiners crying over how Jackson didn’t somehow reach into each of their minds and make the movies exactly the way they’d envisioned it and so Jackson was a horrible evil demon for even attempting to make them in the first place.
And this is going to be the same way. The actual sane fans of The Watchmen are going to enjoy the film immensely, most likely, and the obsessive wanking fanboys are going to scream and cry and wail and whine that Moore’s sacred vision (or, rather, their personal vision of Moore’s vision) wasn’t followed slavishly down to the last grain of sand on Mars.
Oh, and Nemo, I think you have too little faith in people. One way or the other, yes, some people will judge the entire thing by the film. Others, though, many I’d think who have never read the book, will go in search of it and see what inspired the film.
I read lots of comics, and though I’d heard of both League and Hellboy before the films, it wasn’t until they became popular with such that I was able to get my hands on copies (mostly through a friend who has no qualms spending cash on things he knows nothing about).
Same with “V” - though in my opinion the movie was actually better than the book.
He was killed by a bunch of street punks (probably hopped up on KT-28s), no? On Halloween, when he opened the door thinking they were trick-or-treaters.
Thank you, muldoonthief, about the v.o. bit when Dr. Manhattan appears in the cafeteria. I think you’re right.
:rolleyes: your whole post, but for the record, I’ll scream and cry and wail and whine that the movie shouldn’t have been made at all; not that Moore’s “sacred vision” (whatever the fuck that is) wasn’t followed slavishly down to the last grain of sand on Mars. Look, I absolutely love film, and I absolutely love comic books, and I’m NON-fanboy/wanker enough to admit (unlike most fans of one or the other or both) that they very rarely make good bedfellows. I’ll most likely pay these nudniks for the chance to prove me wrong, and they’ll most likely fail, but either way I’ll give my honest opinion, and as hard as is it for you to grasp, it won’t be largely based on how accurate it is, it’ll be based on how good it is. I haven’t read the book in a few years and I’m deliberately not reading between now and the release of the movie so it won’t bias my opinion. Fuck off with your wanking accusations.
If by “some people” you mean “the overwhelming majority” then I agree. Go out and ask a thousand people what they thought of From Hell or A History of Violence or Road to Perdition or Sin City and see how many talk about the original work and how many talk about the movie adaptation - and none of these were blockbuster movies.
Jesus, someone pulled the mod alarm quick on that one. I told him to fuck off with his accusations, i.e. stop calling me a wanker/whiner/wailer/cryer/screamer, a prerequisite of which, by the way, was him calling me all of those things. But I guess his words technically aren’t as naughty, depending on who you ask :rolleyes:.
Thing is, you don’t get to tell anyone to fuck off in this forum–or in any forum other than the Pit. (As for your other comments, I see no post where you’ve been called an insulting term or which is otherwise in violation of the rules.)
Further comment on this can be made in the Pit or ATMB.