Wow! Was amazed the first time I saw this in a tiny youtube sort of box on my computer. Even more impressed when I played the HD version on the cinema display full screen at the apple store. And totally blown away now that I saw it tonight before the Dark Knight film on the big screen. Looks great. And lots of fun shouting “naked blue men!” before Dr M appears. I’m glad they sort of kept his genitals intact. It would have been nice to see the bloodstained happy face pin though. Awesome Rorshach (sp?) mask. Had to watch it carefully to actually see it changing. And awesome crystal palace. So far everyone looks fairly young and fit. I hope they do the aging aspect well.
With regards to the running length, I don’t see that as as fundamental problem as it would be with a novel adaption. It was only a 12 issue miniseries and they aren’t including the Pirate stuff. I could easily read the entire graphic novel itself in the running time of a movie.
Actually, you’re both rightit was a little of both - on Halloween night an angry mob of knot heads (on Katies, no doubt) - who were pissed off when they heard that Nite Owl (2) had released Rorschach from prison - so they went to get him, not realizing that Hollis Mason was Nite Owl (1), not (2)
Never mind the whining, wanking fanboys – wait until somebody says that Ozymandias’ basic plan is a ripoff of “Heroes”!
At no point in my post was your name even mentioned, nor any pronoun referring particularly to you. I didn’t call you anything. You adopted the martyr’s mantle all on your own. I posted a complaint (prompted by a question from another poster) about the extreme fanboys and whiners. You decided I was talking about you. Even if I WERE talking about you, I didn’t drag that connection into my post explicitly. Since I was talking about a general classification of the public (of which you may or may not be a member), it was not a personal insult that would need to be confined to the Pit.
And as far as “pulling the mod alarm”, I wasn’t the one who did it. I read the post you made, shrugged and went to bed. Maybe it was just a post that would attract a mod, being, as it was, a pretty basic violation of board rules.
Yes, but mostly among the Teeming Millions who, in the absence of the movie, would never have heard of the book anyway.
There was a piece in Entertainment Weekly in which one comment indicated (clearly enough for anyone familiar with the story, but not spoilery for anyone who isn’t) that they didn’t chicken out.
I assume you’re referring to the decision that Ozymandias can’t be brought to account, right? The EW piece had a generic comment on sticking to the original “the bad guy goes unpunished” ending, though that still leaves the question of whether the very last bit with Rorschach’s diary shows up.
I am reminded of a joke from Hammer & Tickle (a collection of secretly circulated anti-regime jokes from the old Soviet Empire):
Attempting to defend himself against a charge of subversion, Ivan attempts to explain that his writings were actually a satirical attack on the capitalist West.
“Silence!” the judge snaps. “Your work clearly describes ‘tyrants’ and ‘thugs’ and ‘oppressors of the people’. This Court knows exactly whom you meant to insult!”
My bolding. Of course it was intentional on his part - the guy is the ne plus ultra of anal reteniveness - I’ve just reread From Hell, and the notes at the end let you know this in no uncertain terms. The man does his homework, and agonizes about every single damn panel. Watchmen is a comic that has one chapter be as completely symmetrical about the middle as possible. You think a little thing like a main character’s father’s profession wouldn’t be carefully chosen?
I’ve always thought the profession of Heroes’ Sylar was a tribute.
Considering the sheer quantity of Watchmen references in that show I’d bet on it.
Saw Dark Knight tonight and, much to my chagrin, they didn’t show the Watchmen preview before it. Gah!
Holy…
The Comedian Shooting the Vietnamese Girl After She Slashes His Face
Nite Owl and Silk Spectre Busting Rorshach Outa Jail
A “Golden Age” Comedian Menaces down on the Original Silk Spectre
A mutant lynx, and my head’s gonna explode.
Moore talks
As long as we’re listening to Moore, here are a few short interviews that are quite fascinating.
Funny, I’ve never read or heard Moore’s opinion on this matter yet we completely agree (first sentence of post #96.)
A couple of things that worry me:
First, there’s no almost no dialog in the trailer. The images look pretty and it’s a rush for a Watchmen fan to see them live, but that doesn’t say whether the movie will be any good or not, just that it will have good effects.
Second, in the prison photo bubastis linked to, Nite Owl looked like a young man in good shape, not the middle aged has-been he is in the comic. It seems to me they’re undermining one of the most powerful and interesting ideas of the comic: What would happen if time and aging were incoporated into a superhero universe.
And the dialog there is is slightly incorrect. Rorschash’s line is actually "…and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘Save us!’ And I’ll look down, and whisper ‘no.’ "
You mean no salient gut distorting his costume like in the comic? That’s true and I noticed it as well. But maybe it’s just the new costume that makes him look better than he really is. There is too little footage to judge yet.
Yah, that could be troubling, insofar as it suggests they’re toning down Rorschach’s craziness. But maybe not - that line was originally one of Rorshach’s thoughts, narration from one of the first pages of the book. If the movie isn’t using narration, and wanted to get that line into dialog, then “the world” is just a bit snappier than “the whores and politicians”. It also gets the same point across - that Rorshach is past giving a damn.
Also, it’s a green-band (“Approved for all audiences”) teaser trailer, so the “whores” etc. may have been cut from the dialogue or re-recorded for purposes of the trailer only. It’s hard to say.
Good point; I remember there was a green-band trailer for the movie Superbad that included several bits that I think were filmed specifically for the trailer, with cleaned-up dialogue.
Raising the question – what will the rating be on the movie? Can we possibly hope for an R?