Sure there is!
It’s been on the SD Network since Oct. 2002 and headed into it’s 9th season.
Although it has terrible ratings with the general audience, it has garnered an almost cult-like following with other faithful viewers who enjoy it for it’s sheer entertainment value.
While it is primarily an extremely dramatic series weaving through an ongoing dream-like saga, there are many episodes which provide a great deal of satire, irony, and even comic relief.
There are rumors circulating the intertubes that the viewership are unhappy with the direction the show has taken in the last few seasons and are petitioning the sole writer (literally, as we speak!) to reconsider his plans for the show!
Nah, Its jumped the shark, they should just cancel it.
It’s settled then. Cyndi Lauper rules. Verdad?
IMHO Agreed!.. but who are we to state that as a fact?
Something weird that I have noticed is that when he goes into that…mode…he begins to speak strangely stilted…almost robotic.
He doesn’t use many contractions anymore.
I do not do have a posting history
I do not do these things
I do not have such a history
that is a fact
Funny as hell. I think Dio said something very interesting in the thread that started all this. He said that all performers wanted popular success.
He doesn’t seem to understand that there are some musicians out there that perform for the art of it and would prefer high praise and respect from the artists they love over the money and fame of the masses.
There was a time when Dio used to get lots of respect on this board from the ‘respected’ members of this board. I think that wasn’t enough for him. He decided he wanted to be a board phenom. So he started up the Dio show, so that he can become more famous and notorious. Working like a charm. And Dio, let me save you the trouble of a response:
’There is no Dio show. That is a fact. I do not do this. I do not do this. You will be exterminated.’
I find it all quite entertaining, but I never like to post in a Dio thread with criticism without admitting my admiration for him. He has taught me a lot of valuable information on this board, so I would hate to ever see him go. Plus he’s funny. On purpose, often.
Sure there is, it’s 52,000 posts of the same damn thing over and over again.
Diogenes, to my recollection we have never interacted to any significant extent, so I hope you will take this as coming from someone with no prejudice against you. In fact, your posting habits do present a problem. Whatever the reason, they do all too frequently end up derailing a thread. We have discussed this in the mod loop; it is far from just Marley and twickster who have a concern about this. Others who contribute to the derailings are not blameless, but you have admitted to some contributing faults in the all-too frequent Pit threads about you.
You seem to be inclined to ignore both the well-intended advice of the moderation staff, as well as the criticism (IMO well-merited) you have received in the Pit. Whether or not you are willing to admit that you have a problem, you do have a problem. Your continued denial of this is not a good thing.
I think all I can say at this point is that the your attention has now been brought to this situation, so keep it in mind in the future. You’re not responsible for other people overreacting to you (IMO the suggestion that you’re trolling is ridiculous), but you do contribute to these situations plenty and it’s reasonable to ask you to rein it in, just as it’s reasonable to ask people who don’t appreciate your posts to either ignore them or follow the rules in responding. Maybe it would’ve been better to discuss this in private rather than giving other people an opportunity to take potshots.
It will be easier for Dio to acknowledge that there is such a thing as the Dio Show if there weren’t instances of it being shouted out when it’s not warranted. Mods should get it right. Posters are annoying enough when they shout it out when he hasn’t really done anything. But a mod should try hard not to do that.
IMO your opinion that the suggestion that Dio is trolling is ridiculous is ridiculous.
Can I through out this semi Dio related point about his “troll like” behavior?
Many folks seem to think he rarely or never actually crosses the line. Which may well be true. But, in my factual opinion, that is part of the problem.
My position would be that for somebody that very often hovers just on the good side of the line needs to have his or her personal line moved back a bit compared to that of well behaved posters. To me, cronic line testers are way more disrupting (and I think all the Pit posts about Dio are proof of this) than the generally well behaved poster that once in great while flip out or screw up and really cross the line. And, for that matter, at least those folks very often admit their error and even apologize for it, which Dio almost never does.
I’m not a big fan of twickster’s moderation in general, but I think she made the right call here, although she probably could have articulated it better than she did (e.g., by making it clear that she was specificallly addressing the person who has a problem with derailing threads by posting opinions as facts and then refusing to back down).
A smart person might stop to consider why they’re always getting “piled on” when no one else is if they’re not doing anything to precipitate it.
You know what causes The Dio Show, Dio? When you state something that’s a personal opinion, based solely on your own experience, as an absolute Truth, and you then *refuse to budge a single centimeter *when people post example after example of their own cites and experiences that contradict yours. Everybody patiently explaining to you why you’re wrong isn’t a pile-on. That’s a valid response to ignorance.
You claim that the reason you cannot be trolling is that you know your own mind and intentions. And yet, you consistently refuse to accept the validity of the minds and intentions that others claim for themselves. If you cannot extend the same courtesy to others, why should they feel any obligation to take you at your word when you say that you’re not trolling?
I still don’t know if we’re allowed to make statements like “NOFX is pretty good” in Cafe Society without stating that we are expressing an uncited opinion and not making a factual assertion. If we can’t - that seems really dumb. If we can - then I don’t understand the warning. Although it is my opinion that Dio is a sometimes negative presence on the board, I don’t understand how confusing rules that are inconsistently applied is the appropriate solution. Right now, it seems like the mods are being more obstinate than Dio, trying to justify an action that , in retrospect, makes no sense instead of being willing to backpedal and say that it should have been handled differently, and that there is, in fact, no rule against making statements like “performers want to be successful” in Cafe Society or IMHO.
Darth, I think Marley pretty much said that there is no such rule.
I don’t know that it is conscious.
I would have thought, some years ago, that no one can be as un-aware of one’s own postings as that, so I would have classed it as trolling, but I have come to know better. This is just a habit he has gotten into. This kind of blank-faced insistence, over and over and over, eventually drives other posters out of a thread, and then all that is necessary is to interpret silence as victory.
Not that he is the only to do this. Other Dopers, including (no doubt) myself are guilty from time to time, although I would think the rest of us try to make some effort at actually backing up a position instead of simply repeating “Nyet!” ad infinitum.
Maybe we are beyond the point where it helps, but I bet the issue with the original post that got the note was not just that it stated an opinion as fact, but that it stated an opinion as fact and announced that he was going to insist on it no matter what the evidence. That was the annoying part about the “I don’t care what they say” clause. The rest of us could post a dozen different quotes from a dozen different musicians all saying “I didn’t want the hassle of touring” or “I dropped out of music to take care of my family” or “I re-dedicated myself to Islam so music isn’t as important”, and Diogenes would respond in exactly the same way.
Perhaps the note would be better if it said “don’t state your opinion as fact if you won’t take into consideration facts that contradict it”.
Not that it would help forestall another episode.
Regards,
Shodan
You state that like it was a fact.
But that’s okay. You aren’t Dio
I disagree IMHO.
I understand that Dio’s assertive posting style irritates a segment of the SDMB posting population, but should that be his problem?
We all knew he was expressing an opinion based on a blanket assumption.
To me, that is a fair comment.
To ask him to qualify all his assertions with a “IMHO” is somewhat personally vindictive and asking him to lie. Say what you want, but when Dio speaks he really believes what he says. It doesn’t bother me, and if the thread topic was worthy enough to continue , it should be able to withstand a sidebar.
By the way, the Beatles are the best.
Yes (imo), and then Twix contradicted him (imo).
In addition, the principle being espoused is “It’s ok for Dio to disrupt countless threads with his incessant trollish posts.” And sorry SDMB, if it’s ok for Dio to do it, it’s ok for everyone else to. In fact, I encourage everyone to. After a week or so of non-stop “Any stupid-ass thing that I post about is 100% correct and it doesn’t matter how obnoxiously I post about it”-type posts a-la Dio, the mods will be fed up enough to finally do something about it.
Right now, they (excluding Twix) seem to be saying “Well, it’s ONLY Dio’s posts which threadshit up all these threads. So no biggie.” That won’t be the case when everyone else starts doing it.
And everyone who disagrees with this post is wrong. That is a categorical fact. In fact, anyone who disagrees with this probably posts stuff seemingly like a brain-damaged poster would.
“I didn’t want the hassle of touring”
read, " touring won’t help my career"
“I dropped out of music to take care of my family”
read, " my career wasn’t going anywhere anyway"
“I re-dedicated myself to Islam so music isn’t as important’
read, " my career wasn’t going anywhere anyway”
Nothing you posted qualifies as a superior counterpoint to Dio’s assertion.
I’ve actually thought of pulling just that. But I am sure I would be banned toot sweet. I mean, I have little doubt that I unitentionally pull a Dio “lite” once in a great awhile (and many other posters here for that matter), but I don’t think I do it regularly or at the industrial strength level.