"Wedding Crashers" -- Is there such thing as an honest womanizer?

I just saw Wedding Crashers, in which two womanizers crash weddings by pretending to be relatives (however distant) of the bride or groom, pick out target women, then seduce them by charm and, for the most part, spinning webs of lies. Seems to work. Then again, it’s only a movie. But it makes me wonder: Are all successful womanizers liars? Is it possible to be entirely honest with every woman you meet and still get a whole lot of them into bed?

Not necessarily. If you are good looking, powerful and/or charasmatic enough you can pretty much tell a woman quite directly what your panda agenda is and surprisingly often they’ll go along with it.

you forgot rich (or are including it in a subset of powerful).

I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find out that rock stars and professional athletes get all the play they want, if the stories I’ve heard from some friends of mine are true.

But what if you’re only as good looking, etc., as the characters in Wedding Crashers? Will honesty be enough?

I had two friends in college that were womanizers of that type. The were both good looking and seemed innocent yet charming and confident at the same time. They weren’t the sterotypical sleazoids that women complain about meeting in bars. They seemed like someone women would want to hang out and laugh with to get away from the guys that were trying to “pursue” them. That is why they were so deadly. OTOH, they had a genuine love of women and merely wanted to get to know as many of them as possible.

One was named Pierre oddly enough although he wasn’t French. We worked in a hotel together and he was the bartender. He just casually and confidently played his game night after night and he told me that he was to over 150 women in 3 years. I don’t doubt it for a second because he slept with the cocktail waitesses in the bosses office when things were slow and even seduced some of my female friends. I can’t imagine any of them ever regretting it. It was a labor of love for him and his style was extremely effective.

How many guys are truly honest? Would it work if you just went up to a woman in a bar and said “I think you are very attractive and I’d like to sleep with you”?

Most guys don’t do this. Instead they feign interest in conversation and whatnot in hopes that the girl will eventually give in.

Slight interjection… I really, really, really hate that word ‘womanizer’. It demeans women; it demeans those of us, women and non-women both, who enjoy being with women, and it implies that both the process and any enjoyment that results involve cheating or dishonesty. And, it’s grammatically illogical.

We need another word for the practice of seduction for pleasure. We need an expression that reminds us that erotica is a subset of beauty, and that beauty is the hand of the gods lighting the universe. And we need an expression that acknowledges that all concerned have made a choice to be there.

How about, oh, I dunno… ‘making love’?

OK, I surely do respect that.

I’m thinking of my (departed) Uncle Raymond. Now, here’s an individual that one would never in a million years think of as a “womanizer” or a “Romeo.”

The guy had a minumum wage job for most of his life, lived in a 1-room apartment, and drank apricot brandy, chased by a 6-pack of Budweiser all his life. He was not good looking, and had a beer belly that was of championship proportions, and further was not a great concersationalist (which is how my father got all his women into bed). I seriously doubt that seduction or erotica were even words the guy knew.

I really hope y’all are not hoping to hear me tell the secret of how he did it, because I just do not know…

But the man was never without female companionship. All his years. A few of them were even pretty nice lookers.

Color me confused. :confused:

Yeah, it’s possible. I have friend who is very charismatic and charming. He flirts like mad but he doesn’t lie about his intentions. He never has any trouble picking up women.

I really don’t like that phrase. Mainly, because it’s imprecise. There was a time when to “make love” to a woman simply meant to do what we would now call “coming on” to her. Then, somehow, it became a synonym/euphemism for copulation. Either way, it doesn’t fit what we’re discussing: The behavior of a man who pursues and attempts to seduce many women.

I think philandering may be the appropriate word. I’ve had some success w/ the fairer
sex and I’ve always been somewhat particular in my choice of partners. I love a
challenge, but I’ve lost interest in recent years, for reasons I won’t go into.
It wasn’t my habit to lie, or misrepresent myself, nor was I callous about my
endeavors. I suppose psychologists would find several ways to pigeonhole my
behavior, but I have many fond memories and I believe that most of the women I
encountered would share my attitude.