The problem isn’t so much that you post too much, as it is that your posts are often confusing or incomprehensible.
I mean, the only way we can get anywhere is by talking. The best players will be posting all the time, whether it’s hounding the player who’s been acting suspicious, vigorously defending themselves, or exploring every possible exploit that’s technically within the rules. All of these things need posts, and lots of them. And I don’t like restricting our ability to post stuff when we need to. If you’ve got something, or you think you’re onto something, post! Just try to make it understandable.
Alka–this is stupid. I understand why editing is frowned upon. I do. And I won’t do it myself. But a day 1 edit, early on, with the explicit specification of quote tags? The odds that that was a scum slip are low. I mean, look at the early editors in the Crimson Glyph, the first recent game to allow editing. There wasn’t a single slip edited out, but there was a townie being chased for an innocuous editing. If someone edits with a suspiciously empty post and no edit reason, obviously, that’s more suspicious.
Scud–I can kinda get behind this case. I mean, of the three so far, it has the most merit, but on day 1 of Day 1, that’s not saying much. It was an oddly specific comment–why would Weird automatically imply supernatural (especially since there are no supernatural Westerns that I know of), and why would he specifically mention scum roles, regardless? Seems rather suspicious. But I think I’m going to wait and see what Scud himself has to say; after what happened with Pleo and (separately) in Lost I’m starting to rethink my ‘shoot from the hip’ strategy.
Boozy–a typical ‘vote for the voter’ strategy, and a particularly lame one at that. While I can fault boozy for being less than thorough, I can hardly see the scum motivation here–it would have been far easier for scum Boozy to just not quote anyone and claim it was a random vote. And it would have been more logical for scum Boozy to explain his vote. I’m thinking, Boozahol was rushed, and voted without explanation.
I suggest everyone go back and read the opening paragraph. The setting is 1853 Old Wild West, and nowhere in the piece does it mention the supernatural, so the following
definitely seems out of place.
The point of extra information is that only Town Power roles or scum would know that. Of course, the really interesting point of the above quote is that it states there are scum power roles.
Hello there, how do we know that the scum have power roles? It’s something we can guess at but certainly not assume.
it’s as good as anything so far.
vote Tom Scud
An explanation would be a really good idea at this point in time.
If you’re town, offering yourself up as a sacrifice doesn’t help us. There are very few situations where a townie should self vote of promote their own lynch. If you find you’re unable to participate properly, please ask for a replacement.
With a small edit window, I don’t see much scope for scum to exploit it, but it’s clear the town consensus is against edits. I have no problem with that.
We’ll see how Meeko gets on in this game, I understand he is trying to improve his play. His posts #175/#176 are a pretty clear indication of what he is thinking right now, so that’s a decent start.
I’ll comment on the new vote wagons once Tom and Boozahol check in. In general, it’s best to give accused players a chance to react before giving your own interpretation. I want to hear their thinking, I don’t want to feed them ideas. The exception to this is when an attack contains a factual or logical error, it’s best to point that out straight away.
Now that I keep hearing it put that way it does sound odd, however I still don’t think it’s fair to vote someone for suggesting ideas. Besides if Tom is a scum power role (or scum with the knowledge of scum power roles) why would he mention them? And to reiterate he DID NOT state that there were supernatural scum power roles he suggested that there may be supernatural scum power roles and you guys are jumping down his throat for that. Again, how are we supposed to suggest things that we think might be going on in the game if are going to get votes for doing it.
Hey, BTW, I’ll bet that scum can Night Kill. I’ll also bet that there exist some townies with power roles. Dun Dun Dun [sub]String Him Up![/sub][sup]I’ll get the rope[/sup]I’ll kick the stool out from under him
Vote for the Voter voting the Voter. Vote Boozahol
This game aint big enough for the both of us. [Especially if we are going to have the same tactics.]
But, then again, It’s just Tuesday, votes may change.
FTR: I am not convinced that Tom Scud is Tom Scum. I think we can give Alka a pass for now, on a day 1 edit.
Also, Pedescribe: (Sorry, can’t multiquote on this machine for some reason):
Uh, ok. I can’t quite believe that I’ve become the vote leader (at least once Roosh gets that butterfly ballot thing worked out) based on a quick throwaway, but anyway:
I saw two people discussing possible roles based on the genre, and they were all basic Western roles. And yet, the title of the game is not Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath, it’s Weird Wild West etc., and so it seemed to me that the Weird had to be based on something.
Now, what else has happened that might give us a clue as to the other genre. Could it be the mutilated bodies and obscure threats written in human blood? Nah, that’s vanilla Western – I think it was a central plot point in High Noon, or maybe Shane. And of course they went back to that plot so many times on Bonanza that “Little Joe vs. the creepy cultists” became one of Johnny Carson’s go-to jokes. (1)
But anyway, for some mysterious reason or another, the word “Weird” connoted to me “this is a Horror game”, which to me implied at least a possibility that there was a supernatural element.
And as to why I figured that there was a greater likelihood of the supernatural stuff being on the scum side, hello, have any of you ever watched any horror movie, or read any horror novel, ever? The good guys maybe get a gypsy fortune-teller or a kid with weird dreams or a priest who’s lost his faith. The bad guys get whatever the writer/director thinks is scary.
Oh, and as to why I thought there were scum power roles: in both Mafia games I’ve paid attention to (and yes, I’m a noob), scum power roles played a key role in winning the game for scum. And of course the last one I followed was also moderated by Mahaloth.
This is why I said (going to the film):
note the word “might” in the above quote.
(1) In case you couldn’t tell, I was being sarcastic.
Anyway, I don’t think Boozy is scum: going off half-cocked and trying to lynch someone for asinine reasons seems to me like more of a flailing-about-day-1-Town thing than a scum thing. I’ll probably vote for him defensively if something doesn’t change the dynamic, but that’s only because from my perspective he has a better chance of being scum than I do, since I know I’m town.
But Naf’s “me too” vote on me looks much scummier, as far as I’m concerned. Scummy enough for Day 1, anyway.
Also, the voting looks really cliquish so far, which strikes me as a bad thing. All the votes for me come from old-timers who didn’t play in the Lost Mafia game, while all the votes for Boozy (plus my vote for NAF) come from people who did play in the Lost game.
NETA: This is the piece I wanted to bring back up.
Alka :
I’m worried about this. I would think it would be easy, for someone to say, look at these two people, but don’t look at me, I’m innocent. I don’t think you are that far away from this here.
The old Meeko would just grunt “Alka is throwing out a red herring here. blah blah blah ::eat meat:: blah!!!”
But, well, I don’t smell herring yet.** YET.**
It’s possible Tom Scud made a Scum slip. I find the wording to be strange - specifically focusing on the possibility of supernatural Scum power roles and ignoring the Town side of things. There is a good chance, though, that that was just bad wording. Now, bad wording can and does get people lynched in Mafia, but we’ll see.
I don’t see the Scum motivation for Squid - his voting post did not offer no explanation. “Good to know” is a phrase which pops up every now and then - a Townie uses it to accuse someone of Perfect Information Syndrome. So again, I see it as bad wording. Out of the two, Squid’s seems the more innocent.
It is worth looking closer at those who followed up on votes. I notice Joey P followed someone else’s lead with his 2 votes. But being the second voter for someone isn’t by itself a Scumtell.
