It was a freaking one-line post tossed off on the way out of the office. I’m sorry I didn’t write a frigging dissertation.
I thought there were more likely to be supernatural Scum because, hello, horror genre? The bad guys generally have more supernatural stuff going on in the horror genre.
That is all.
Now, bear in mind, we don’t KNOW that this is a horror genre game. It’s possible that the people with the mutilated bodies were fluffed to death by cute little bunny rabbits.
True. I lurked Crimson Glyph, so I recognized your name in the way I didn’t recognize the names of any of the people who voted for me.
This is something that I noticed while I was catching up it kind of has the feeling of second is the new third vote. I’ve looked back through and he isn’t just doing me too votes so I’m not over suspicious of it yet.
As far as the comment, by Tom of this being a weird game. I don’t see that there is much behind it. I think there being supernatural roles isn’t completely outside the box, I don’t think it’s likely but I can see where he drew his conclusion. As for the though that only the scum roles are supernatural, it is far more troubling. his explanation so far has been pretty reasonable and I’m willing to accept it as face value but think he merits further watching.
Now you’re just being silly.
Here’s the biggest problem–having lost most of the scum team to retardedly innocuous PIS slips last week on LOST (cue synopsis), and seeing how well it has worked in the past in more than one game, we need to be conscious of these kind of slips.
Now, countering that, is the idea that I’m pretty on board with **Tom’**s ideas–when I saw “Weird Wild West” I thought, “awesome, mafia that might be based on Deadlands”. The only part that bothers me is the weird specificity of scum supernatural power roles–to counterexample Tom’s assertion, the “good guys” in both of the Weird Wild West examples I can think of (Wild Wild West (either version) and Deadlands) have amazing powers/abilities, even if they’re obviously supernatural in only the latter.
Basically what I’m saying is that the jury is out and my vote will be highly influenced by how **Tom **continues to defend himself–but I’m not necessarily convinced by his rationales/defenses thus far.
I’m back from my Boston trip. It took a bit longer to recover from it than I thought it would, I’m not as young as I used to be and that much driving is hard on a guy.
I really dislike no editing as a policy. The window here is small enough that it isn’t really an issue. But whatever, I’m not going to make huge amounts of waves over it. I also won’t be voting solely for it however.
I disagree with you NAF regarding early game Vig kills. Unless the Vig makes it a point to take out people that are high in suspicion already, like say the second leading vote getter or similar, there really isn’t much information generated. When Tom Scud got vigged in Lost, what information did Town receive really? Nothing. And lots of bodies early is pro-Scum, not pro-Town. Scum was able to dominate Smash Brothers because we were able to litter the ground with bodies faster than the Town could generate information. We probably still would have won, since we had the hidden Doctor that really wasn’t a Doctor, but it would have been a lot tougher row to hoe.
I’m not buying that Tom made a scum slip. I know that when I saw the Weird part of the title, I was thinking there was either going to be a supernatural or maybe steam punk angle to the standard Wild West faire. When you add in the opening color, deciding it was supernatural seems like a logical decision. And, again based on the color, assigning said supernatual part to the scum is also logical.
Meeko, would you please explain why exactly you are voting for Boozy?
Honestly, I don’t know what else to say at this point. There’s only so much explication that a one-line post can bear.
Incidentally, I was thinking more of Weird Tales (the magazine that among other things published most of HP Lovecraft’s stuff) than of the game Deadlands when I saw the name “Weird”.
Missed this on my first read. As I understand it, with normal roleblocker game mechanics the scum would need to block the vig, not the vig’s target, in order to prevent the kill going through.
Now that Tom has responded, I’ll say that I don’t find his speculation about supernatural roles suspicious. From his first post, #113, it’s clear he understands the closed setup makes it tricky to get discussion going. Weird could mean all sorts of things, but given poor purty Lucille’s dismemberment and the ominous messages, a horror element is plausible. Thinking along those lines, to consider supernatural scum power roles seems fairly natural, and a less jarring than supernatural townies (in horror, the good guys are traditionally powerless and vulnerable, adds to the tension).
Very annoying. I’ve seen a lot of board database errors over the last couple days, so I recommend saving any substantial posts before submitting.
@Meeko - Your post #188 isn’t that helpful, please clarify why you are voting Boozahol.
Sometimes it’s best to hold off a bit before giving your thoughts, to see what reactions develop, as I’ve done above. It’s pro-town to get thoughts on record.
You’re cute. Good vote though. I know I would have voted for me in a similar situation.
Not gonna unvote you yet, but it’s a point in your favor.
This in response to Freudian Slit’s asking whether we should openly discuss who the vig ought to target (if there is a vig), on account of power scum might be able to block the kill.
I’ll just point out that the last 2 (and therefore the only 2) games I’ve watched or played in, there were scum healer/doctors.
Really? I’m pretty sure I have played games where it’s the other way. Someone has the power to protect any one player in the night. Then again, I think that works the other way (it’s Town power role protecting another Townie from Scum, not scum blocking a power role), so I think you’re probably right.
Is this the same Deadlands Mythos as the CCG of the same name? [Wow, There have been a lot of Failed CCGs, haven’t there?!]
And to Alka as well:::
For a first day vote, and going on what I have seen Boozy do, or rather not do, **I am inclined to think that he is another lose cannon in this game. Speaking as the lose cannon that I am, I can respect his play. If only I’m not in the same game.
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And yes, there is a compliment in there.
I would like to see Tom Scud’s situation develop some more, but again, for right now, as a first day vote, I am comfortable with my vote.
NETA LOOSE Cannon :smack:
So you’re voting for him because you think he plays in a similar manner to you. I’ll ask a different question then. How does your vote in any way help us find scum?
I’m sorry, I don’t speak incoherent. Can you translate this for me? 
I parse this as:
For a first Day vote…um…OK, I’m not sure why that qualifier is there we only have first Days on Day 1, so let’s start with “going on what I have seen Boozy do”
So, we’ve got, :
“Based on what I’ve seen Boozy do, or rather not do” Oh shit, which is it? What he did or what he didn’t do? you said ‘rather’ so let’s start off:
Based on what I’ve seen Boozy not do, I’m inclined to think he’s another loose cannon. Which is similar to me, and so therefore you respect it.
So, You’re voting for Boozy out of respect because of what he hasn’t done.
Got it.
Now, if I were talking to anyone else, I’d ask what Boozy did or did not do and how that leads to a conclusion that he is a loose cannon and what being a loose cannon means in the context of this game.
I haven’t actually voted anyone yet, but did cast suspicion on Booze and NAF. I realize now that I was sort of misinterpreting the “why” of their votes. When I first saw Tom’s post, I wondered why he thought there were supernatural elements in the game. When Booze and NAF voted, since that was in my mind, I thought they were voting just based on that. I knew he mentioned scum supernatural powers, but I wasn’t really thinking about that. The scum part does make it seem more like an example of PIS, so I can understand Booze’s and NAF’s votes.
That being said, I am guessing this is just another one of those statements players jump on the first day since they don’t have much else to go on. His explanation seems reasonable enough and I doubt the scum would have actually brought it up.
So…you’re voting for Boozy…because he’s voting…because that’s what you do.
That’s interesting, scum doctor is quite an unusual role from what I’ve seen.
@special ed - Please can you clarify what you think about the Tom wagon? In #168 you say it’s clear why Boozahol voted for Tom, while in #177 you imply it was a silly vote.