No, she was smart enough to keep them at home - they only infected each other. I don’t think she was a cunt, or deserves that name from someone who doesn’t know her as I do. She was self absorbed after months of being trapped in her own home with children she’d deliberately put at risk. Apart from her attitudes to vaccinations, she was intelligent and I liked her.
I have another friend who is currently just as self absorbed after being stuck in *her *home with all three kids projectile at each end with a virus that has no vaccine - she has my sympathy, the other doesn’t.
billfish678, the point I was making is that it is little Billy and Sally parents need to watch out for, Manuel and Consuella are statistically safer playmates. Their immigration status does not make them unhealthy.
Rodent eradication programs in some areas could also help prevent diseases which could effect children. Note however, that does not make rodent eradication discussion on topic for this thread. I would think that would apply to your immigration hijack as well.
Back on page 1, when the discussion was about whether there was any religious reason for certain Christians to refuse vaccines, I was surprised that no one brought up the fact that some vaccines originate from cell lines derived from aborted fetuses. This is this religious objection that I’m aware of for some Christians. This article (pdf) lays out the reasons why the Church has concluded that it’s still OK for Catholics to get these vaccines - but it also explains the counterarguments, which hold good for some other denominations.
That’s what gets me most. They think vaccionations cause autism, despite all the evidence to the contrary (and there is TONS of evidence to the contrary). But I bet that, if everyone were to stop vaccinating now, they’d be first in the queue for vaccinations against these life-threatening diseases. The only reason they don’t have to do that now is because my kids are protecting them.
That’s right - these lovely, caring people are using other people’s kids to protect their own against disease.
Of the people I’ve know who’ve chosen not to vaccinate, I’ve been surprised at just how many have ended up with the illnesses they weren’t protected against, but then, I do live in a low vaccination rate area. One woman’s triplets had measles, and they were all OK, until one of them developed complications and had to be admitted to hopsital. He was initially in a general ward, full of kids with cancer or coming round from surgery, before she admitted that he’d been the symptoms he’d been having recently - she did not believe that he could be so ill from such an insignificant illness.
He was out after a few days, and she was still happy with her decision.
I wonder how many children she killed by sending her infectious son into that hospital, and having him lie there infected before he became ill. She may as well have run around with a gun.
Yet she does this all under the guise of ‘caring.’ IMO, she’s one of the least caring, most selfish, utterly disgusting excuses for a human being that I’ve ever met.
This segment of your story embitters me against the mother; how much of a selfish cunt do you have to be to withhold medical information from doctors under the guise of “Oh, it can’t be that bad” when it’s obvious that the kids your child is surrounded by in the ward are almost all low immune cases? Maybe the mom needs to learn a lesson via her or one of her kids having a permanent, life-changing effect from the diseases she refuses to vaccinate her kids from. I really despise people who think that the deplorable behavior they do is justified because they “care” about the people they’re hurting.
I wonder too. That is a really horrible story. Can we assume the hospital asked her about any contact with infectious diseases, and she just lied to them?
There is no punishment dire enough for such fucking arrogance. There’s going to have to be a few levels added to Hell’s sub-basement for people like her.
I recently went back to school after spending some years in the workforce, and thus I am not living in the dorms(or even on campus). As I did not come in as a freshman, no one has ever even mentioned anything about the meningitis vaccine to me. From what I’m reading, it doesn’t seem like I’m really in a particularly high risk group, but I am spending a lot of time with other college students when I’m there. Would it be worth it to even bother with the vaccine in this case? Prior to this I don’t think I even knew it existed.
I would expected that they would have. Years ago we were traveling and wound up in the hospital in Victoria. I had the worst case of strep throat I’d ever had (and the 60 something doc admitted he’d ever seen) and my baby sis had chicken pox. I think the admitting staff set some sort of land-speed record getting us out of the emergency room and off to a room on the side when they asked what was wrong and my mom said “well - she’s had it before so maybe not but I think it’s chicken pox”
According to my sources, spending four hours with an infected person will put you in the danger zone. Doing a little more research, it looks like meningitis is fairly common, and very serious. If I were you, I’d seriously consider getting the vaccination. Maybe go talk to your doctor and see what she says about your local conditions (I recall hearing about meningitis scares here in Calgary in the past couple of years).
So the mom of measle-boy probably lied, and endangered all the children on the ward with him. That’s some weapons-grade sense of entitlement his mom has there.
Don’t know, sorry. It does seem likely that they would have.
From knowing her - and she is generally a kind, intelligent, person, just a bit messed up when it comes to health - she might have answered yes in a way that was honest to her, because she genuinely didn’t think of measles as being the sort of disease that would harm anyone. It’s just a few spots and a mild fever.
Perhaps, with having three at once, and the other two being relatively fine (only having said spots and fever), she decided it couldn’t be the disease which was causing the problem.
It’s not a religion thing, though - she just believes the sceptics more than the scientists.
Thanks for the link. That article was “tagged” with Islam. Clicking on that tag produced no other articles at Vaccination News. So it appears that the idiotic doctor does not represent a trend.
The *organisations against vaccination * tag showed three articles–about secular groups.
I’d like to thank the hamsters for bringing this thread back. I spent the day with our county school folk getting my speech delayed daughters IEP.
In the confusion of life, I forgot one of the happy, happy reasons I am glad my daughter has been home with us since birth. She has been very, very healthy. No ear aches, a sniffle or two, but otherwise, very robust.
She starts school the day she turns 3. I have her fully vaccinated and have to send her to a school filled with the offspring of freaks. I am not afraid of the vaccines, I’m afraid of the stupid parents who won’t vaccinate and simultaneously overuse antibiotics. No matter how much I protect my child, vaccinate her little veins out, some dickwad, idiot, scum sucking fucktard can concoct an ear infection that can take down even the most robust antibiotics.
How many days will my daughter be sick by being exposed to these little germ-muffins? I’m all about strengthening her immune system, but the crap we have to worry about now, given our level of technology and overall knowledge (wash yer hands, freak) is absolutely, completely and totally ridiculous. Seriously, I don’t mind the sniffles, I mind an ear infection that can kill her.
Do I really have to move to the top of a mountain and home school her in a bubble? Or can we just get some damned sense about what is going on?
New Rule: If you don’t vaccinate your children, or are found with a partial course of antibiotics, you are no longer allowed to use any technology developed since those things were discovered or put into general use. NONE.