I hate to say I told you so. . .
Who’m I kidding? I love to say “I told you so”! Soooo
Toldja so!
That the accuser’s mother is a flake (at least) doesn’t weaken the prosecution’s case at all. Think about it. Who else is a predator more likely to target? If the kid’s mom was balanced, she wouldn’t have given Jackson access to her child. And if the kid came from a healthy home, he wouldn’t have been as vulnerable.
Looks pretty good to me. http://www.wendys.com/food/Product.jsp?family=7&product=28
While “lumpy” might be a bad thing for Cream of Wheat, it’s usually called “hearty” or “chunky” when referring to chili, and is generally a good thing. If you like the “pasty, viscous goo with no identifiable pieces of actual meat in it” kind of chili, try Tommy’s Burgers. That’s good too, but it’s a different kind of good.
Tommy’s Burger -> http://www.originaltommys.com/burger.html
Ah, but proving that she lied in a previous lawsuit, one that netted her $150k, will definitely weaken her case. It makes her look not only like an extortionist but a lying extortionist to boot.
That does not mean for one second that I believe Michael Jackson isn’t a nutcase, possibly a pedophiliac nutcase. But these people are terrible witnesses.
If Jackson is a pedophile, however, she is guilty of prostituting her children for money. I’m as pro-prosecution as they come. This case stinks to high heavens, for many reasons.
Well, time for the news conference came at went, 1pm pacific. I’m not near a TV, and there doesn’t seem to be anything on the Internets. Anyone catch the news conference? What was said?
News conference is now scheduled for 4 p.m. PDT.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=5&u=/ap/20050422/ap_on_re_us/wendy_s_finger
Cops say it was a hoax but didn’t give out further details.
Haj
Hmm, there seems to be all kinds of dirt being piled on Ayala, but nothing that furthers the origins of the finger or where the thing came from or proves that Ayala planted it. Other than the mobile home incident (which does look pretty serious), I don’t see what grounds the police have for charging Ayala with grand theft against Wendy’s.
A better-written story, same subject. That SFGate story was just a mess.
I still want to know what evidence they have for charging Ayala in the Wendy’s matter. I’m coming around to the feeling that Ayala did pull a scam, but I’m not seeing diddly on what evidence they have to press charges.
OK, finally something to hang your hat on. In this story we get:
I will be very annoyed if we never find out where the finger came from.
Was perusing the morning paper and the article there had the most information yet: http://www.freep.com/news/nw/finger23e_20050423.htm
Apparently, they deduced that the finger couldn’t have been in the chili the whole time, because it was not cooked. :smack: Simple, and obvious, once you think about it. Also, nobody actually saw her spit it out, just that she pointed it out in the bottom of her cup. Also also, she said she threw up when she found it, but there wasn’t any vomit at the scene. Add all that to the couple of witnesses who independently said she talked about putting the finger in the cup, and you apparently have a pretty solid hoax.
Guh. The whole incident is disgusting.
Good article, thanks for the link. One minor point of clarification though; it doesn’t exactly say the finger wasn’t cooked, it says
which could mean it was cooked, but just not enough. Or cooked differently (maybe she used the microwave or a George Foreman grill…). I bring this up, because I could have sworn earlier accounts said they confirmed it was cooked.
Wendy’s is giving out a free milkshake today and tomorrow. We’re going over to get lunch there to show solidarity.
They did. Cite .
I would think that a very small “meat with bone-in” object that has been cooked at 170 for 3 hours would resemble a very small meat with bone-in object that has been cooked in a crockpot for 3 hours.
Now you’re just trying to make me hungry.
It’s interesting to note that if a finger did get in some Chili and was cooked at 170 for three hours, perhaps the customer would be unable to recognize it was a finger and just think a shard of beef bone got in there somehow.
I’ve cooked some tough meat in my life, but even game meat wouldn’t survive 3 hrs at that temperature and still resemble the body part it came from.
I am sure we humans are easier to cook. But we’ll need an expert 
I saw all of that (correcting your “not cooked” comment to “not cooked in chili”) in some of the other articles. I thought it was interesting, but did little to establish that Ayala had put the finger in the Chili. Sure, the finger apparently wasn’t cooked in chili. Somehow it made its way into the chili after the chili was prepared. All of this doesn’t point the finger (heh) at Ayala having been the person who did so. Its interesting, but not damning or exculpatory towards Ayala.
That having been said, I’m pretty sure she put it there herself. I just don’t see damning evidence in these stories that establish that this is the case.
Unfortunately, Alfred Packer has been dead for some time.