Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

Looks like town may have turned a corner. Good Luck!

Off to the lounge…

So I have just looked through all of Suburban Plankton’s posts, and here is what I got:

post 369 SB calls for the lynching of glee. This is another known scum talking about glee. kivvik did it as well, but way later, in post 1709
Why is this? Does anybody else suspect glee? Is this a case of trying to hide in the open or is glee town? Maybe s/he should be investigated?

In posts606 , 674 and 732 Suburban points the FOS at BM and pleonast.

In post 737 he tries to throw suspicion on me, basically by showing that Zuma and Menecchio had both voted for me. Also suggests Zuma as a cop.

post 821 the FOS is still on BM and Pleonast. I get added to the list based on my trust lists. My trust list was the following:

Trust: Pleonast, Chrisk
Don’t Trust: Sturmhauke, Gaderene, pimaspinner

He lists posts 327 and 437 as my trust lists. They did not change.

Don’t really know why he FOS’s me, except perhaps because I had put Pleonast on my trust list. Or could it be he didn’t like my distrustlist? He had earlier defend the 1st day attempt (by me) to get Sturmhauke. He did so in post 283. Not sure if this means anything, just throwing it out there.

However in the post 821 (mentioned above) he also defends Autolycus!! Even more reason to believe we have ourselves the GF!

Guess what happens in post 900 ? Another confirmed scum defends Autolycus! In this post the FOS is at Pygmy Rugger but no vote is cast. He even compliments the error that someone caught in regards to Pygmy Rugger (I do not remember what this error was).

post 954 The FOS is still on Pleonast. He also brings up ArizonaTeach, for what reason I do not know. He also encourages people to “stand by their votes”.

Post 1144 more FOS at BM. Also mentions brewha, and then the rest of the post doesn’t make much sense to me. However it seems to be answer to something brewha had posted.

post 1768 we have a long one. This is in answer to JSexton’s post, and the FOS that JSexton had placed on a number of people. A number of whom it has been proven to be town. Here is the scum list of JSexton [is what is proven or suspected]:

Probably Scum:

Blaster Master –(SK) – [vig]
Pleonast – [mason]
Queueing
glee
Aguecheek
Gadarene – [town]
brewha
Fern Forest [sk]

Suburban doesn’t much care for this list. Perhaps people should be investigated from it? The name of glee comes up again.

Suburban also voted for JSexton here.

post 1810 he answers an accusation from lakia.

1873 FOS JSexton again.

1991 tries to save FCOD, and tries to throw some distrust on pimaspinner.

So what does all this mean to me?

Autolycus is the GF.
Glee needs to be investigated.
It wouldn’t hurt if Sturmhauke was investigated as well.
Same with Aquecheek.
I suppose I should throw myself here as well, but I know I am town :).

What strikes me from that post cowgirl is that lakai also defended Autolycus right here . Maybe I am looking for to many similarities right now, but it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibilities that part of the plan hatched by the Mafia on night 1 was for Autolycus to roleplay. They could foresee that this might perhaps annoy some people as well as throw some suspicion his way. However him being the Godfather would come up as town. This could throw some suspicion onto the people who attacked him for acting like he did while at the some point throw some of the supposed townieness onto his defenders.

Just want to point out that I FOSed kivvik yesterday in post 1874; he was, in fact, my main suspect in that line of reasoning, but because it seemed weak at the time, I didn’t pursue it. His defense a few posts later was a bit suspicious as well. He would have been my first FOS today, had the SK not picked him off last night.

Anyway, I tend to agree with the general reasoning in this thread to this point, and the selected targets. I also agree that we should hold off a bit before pulling the trigger in the hopes that we can get more information to go on for tomorrow. As long as pimaspinner is right about either Autolycus or Fern Forest, I think it will actually put the town ahead for once, and if he’s right about both, it puts us in very good position.

Either way, as I said yesterday, and especially because the night went well in our favor, my main target should now be the SK, so I’m strongly in favor of my targetting our town’s main suspect for the SK.

Further, to Pleonast and the other masons, if there is only one other unclaimed Mason, you need to claim now, or we’ll have no way to verify. However, if there is more than one (I suspect there’s at least two, possibly three), then it’s probably not in your favor to claim.

Blaster Master’s mention of me was a bit of ribbing because of my flawed logic. I had a scheme to test whether or not Blaster Master was the vig. It was flawed because the miller blocks a person, not a role. This was my mistake, which I realized quickly after posting. Of course, with no editing, recanting my idea would only bring more attention to my screw up.

Oh, and if we agree that we need more time,

unvote Autolycus

But, FOS Autoylcus - Loudly!

I didn’t realise the Godfather was immune to the Serial Killer. :eek:

Apparently if the Miller blocks the Godfather’s powers, the Godfather can be killed by the Vigilante.

But here Pimaspinner says:

“I PM’d NAF with a rules query addressing this, because I wanted to be sure when I layed out my case. He is immune from all night kills from both the Vig and the SK. Even if double targeted.”

NAF1138, please can you clear this up?
Thanks. :slight_smile:
Next I looked back at all of Autolycus’ posts in the thread since the game started - it’s a dirty job but someone had to do it! Mind you I listened to an entire DVD whilst doing it :rolleyes: )
They fall into these categories…

Content-free:
Analysis:
Wanted to Lynch:

He could be a terrible Town player (who we can well do without).
He could be the Godfather and wants to be investigated and ‘cleared’.

**But look! Here are known Mafia leaping to protect him :frowning: **:

I particularly like this one - after Autolycus broke the rule about no editing, I suggested he should be kicked out the game. Then came:

Credit to Queueing for pointing this series of posts out. :cool:

Lynch Autolcyus
Vigilante kills Fern Forest

Youz guys think way’s too highly of me. I wish I were that smart.

Well, it looks like you’re well on your way to a lynching, we’re just trying to collect some information for tomorrow first. Do you, perhaps, have an inclination to defend yourself?

I knew this was going to be trouble when **pimma ** asked me the question. Ok, I didn’t say anything in the original rules about the SK and the GodFather. But I did decide that the same rules would apply to all night killers fairly early on in the game. So if the miller blocks the GF the GF can be killed by either the SK or the Vig.

Ye’r a punk ya know that? Of course I’s gonna defend myself. Later though. I’m still nursin’ a hangover from Hell.

Blast! I forgot to post my statistics on Autolycus:

Content-free: 44 (yes, forty-four meaningless posts :smack: )
Analysis: 6 (these included one illegal night post and one illegal edited post :frowning: )
Wanted to Lynch: Blaster (4 times); ChrisK/JSexton; Pleonast; Zuma; Menocchio (twice); Storyteller and (best of all) AUTOLYCUS. :rolleyes:

I don’t mind being investigated, but the problem is that a) there are more likely Mafia and b) there’s no reason to worry about me.

Let’s face it - I’ve had two Mafia try to lynch me, while the Masons Zuma and Pleonast trust me.

Nice try Don Corleone! That’s exactly what you’d like us to believe.

I agree, I think Pygmy Rugger, Aguecheek, and Lakai are higher on my scum-dar. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still quite suspicious of you, glee, but not as much as I am of those two.

Oh, add to that list hocow. I’d previously said she was my most likely suspect for SK, and if she wasn’t that, was almost certianly mafia. Don’t forget Autolycus’s post where he said he thought she was doc…WTF? If Autolycus is any sort of scum, I’d look strongly in her direction with an investigation as well.

Please, please don’t change the rules halfway through the game!

So what you’re saying is that the Godfather is immune to both the SK and the Vig, unless a Miller blocks the Godfather, right?

Well, you’ve done great analysis, but this statement pings my scumdar.

No rules have been changed. Simply a clarification. You are correct.

Well, suck. Thus ends my first game of Mafia. At least I have free time now :stuck_out_tongue:
Although I was sad to hear cowgirl say that the other thread is dull; I was hoping to have two good threads to read when I died.

Thanks for the fun and tripling my post count :slight_smile: See y’all around.
/ghost
/haunt

Sorry about that. :o

All I claim is that I have posted decent analysis, not that I have any special role. I only mentioned you two because you’re confirmed townies who posted you trusted me.

I can add that I helped get the Suburban Plankton badwagon rolling. :slight_smile: