Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

Sorry to tell you this… but its only 3 votes

If pimaspinner and Blaster Master both have made their decisions for this night, there’s nothing else to discuss. Vote Autolycus

Some people in the thread seem to have been expressing that opinion.

Pissy? If you say so.

I saw that. I don’t really see why a SK would go for a random townie who isn’t posting much. I’d think that a cop or doc would be more likely, to preserve their cover and make sure kills go through.

Your call. It’s a legitimate fear, and if you say you saw signs pointing that way, I’m not going to call you wrong. From my perspective, it didn’t seem like a big risk.

Autolycus: This is a team game. It’s not an individual sport. You’re essentially saying that you put oyur own survival and fun as your top priorities, and the success of the team a distant third.

That’s not terribly helpful, and I’m fine with your lynch.

Auto, you realize that if you are actually town, you win if the town wins, regardless of your demise. You basically admitted that you were playing the game for your individual victory, and that is not helpful for the town as a team. (Again, this is going on notion that you are actually town.) The only way for us townies to win is by working together to weed out scum, not merely protect our own asses individually.

I have no idea who you are in real life. :confused:
I explained early on that your content-free posts were no help to the Town (and even made it harder to read through the thread).
Note you’re the only one posting in ‘mafia-speak’ during the day.
After a while, I decided you were either a non-team townie or Mafia and said so. That’s the point of the game.
I don’t dislike you personally - I voted for you because of your way of playing.

What exactly does ‘bandwagon’ and ‘out of the woodwork’ mean?
I suspect you.
I suspected Suburban Plankton too.

Well so far the rest of us have discovered 4 Masons, 4 Mafia, 1 Detective, 1 Beat Cop, 1 Vigilante, plus a claim for the Doctor.
When were you going to post some analysis?

At least 21 players have voted to lynch you. The clear majority are Citizens.

Yeah, you’ve been busy since you got fingered as Godfather. I counted 40 posts in 10 hrs.

You were on the dope the whole time, but didn’t come up with a defense.
Hmm… :dubious:

Strike that ^

I meant 6.5 hrs.

Auto, I was hoping for a better defense.

The problem with what you have posted is (as others have pointed out) that if you are indeed telling the truth, you have been acting like a jerk and still deserve to be lynched. You have not given us any reason to not lynch you.

To be fair, however, I would like to hear the results of your thoughtful analysis of your independent observations. We are a fair bunch; if (in the remaining time available) you can make your case about why those you’ve FOS’d are mafia, and if your revelation is sufficiently persuasive, I expect that many of us would be happy to change our votes.

So let’s hear it. I’m ready to give your story a fair trial. I’m not ready to change my vote, but I’m ready to listen and the clock can be stopped if the group wills it. There’s still a bit of time.

If you can’t do it, and you’re not the Godfather, then what have you been doing here?

Only 2 votes needed to end the day early. (**Kat ** and Lakai)

Auto, if it turns out you are town, I’m sorry, but you haven’t managed to convince me.

The day ends in 2 1/2 hours anyway.

??

I have 5 hours on my clock.

Seconded.
I can sympathize that, as a vanilla townie, you don’t have any bread crumbs to drop – but you haven’t been *helping * at all. In fact, you’ve been pretty openly defiant. Yes, I get the “roleplaying,” yes I get the fact that you want to “live” - but both of those actions are actively hindering the game. And in your big defense in which you talk about all your analysis, all you do is try to condemn the people who most of the town agree with. What’s your justification for mistrusting pima? Granted, if the mafia threw **FCOD ** to the mob in order for the town to gain **pima’s ** trust, that’s some damn fine playing. But the odds against that…man…no…I don’t buy it. Try to convince me, because in a few hours, I believe we’ll have the godfather swinging from the rafters and a serial killer dead in the street by morning.

Oh? I though it was 5PM Pacific. You know, I’m just going to let you handle ending the Day, because clearly, I can’t do it properly.

Nope, the regular day would have ended at 5pm…but not until Monday. Brewha posted his clock starting vote at 7:51. I figured everyone would remember it better if I rounded up to 8pm (what’s 9 minutes between friends right?)
Not a big deal.
2 votes left to hammer.

I’m just wondering, but since people seem to be suspicious of me because I defended Auto, would it make sense to investigate me if Auto turns out to be town?

Oh, and in my big conspiracy theory post way back in day 2 , it appears I completely outed the masons. I figured as much when Zuma and Pleonast both claimed, that since these guys voted alike and weren’t mafia, they had to be the other group of people who would trust each other. Good thing no one took me too seriously.

Since I am being investigated tonight, would it make sense and try to defend myself today? Since I’m a townsman, it would be in the interest of the town to investigate someone else right?

That should be:

Since I am being investigated tonight, would it make sense for me to try to defend myself today? Since I’m a townsman, it would be in the interest of the town to investigate someone else right?

Whee, my first FoS!!! I was beginning to think I looked way too innocent for this game :slight_smile:

I win if the town wins, even if I am dead? I’ve always played that you lose when you die. See, that would have really changed my approach to this thing :smack:

As I expected, I see I haven’t convinced anyone to unvote me. It makes me sad that when I die and am revealed innocent, people are actually going to be glad to get rid of my ‘unhelpful’ posts. Oh well, I built my house of cards, and now the dominos are falling around me, checkmate.

Guys, this town is fucked. Right now everyone is behaving that we’re in a comfortable situation, what with the Vig, the doc, a beat cop, and some masons all allegedly identified, but all it takes is one or two of those roles to be a lie to totally screw us over. I dont think it’s a conspiracy to the level Winston was taking it, but this situation definitely reaks of well-crafted bullshit. Very well-crafted, because there are no obvious lies or logical discrepancies. But you know what they say, if it’s too good to be true… Anyway, we had one bad night and one good night, and now you’re letting your euphoria get to your heads. Again, I’m not the godfather people. It’s just a theory that happens to fit a priori, but conveniently lacks any factual basis.

Here’s another thing in my defense. If I was mafia, and my play style was truly brilliant, I would naturally have a solid defense prepared for this inevitable situation. The mafia have the power in this game, at least initially, and, if I was the godfather, a lot of mafia people would be rising up in my defense. A ballsy mafia play such as people think I’ve been doing would have a proper defense plan in case of a lynching. As you can see, I have no great defense. Thus, I am not the mafia. Not the most logical defense, but it has a certain elegance to it dont you think? Probably not, but whatever. You’re going to lynch me no matter what I say, so fuck it.

It’s a catch 22 for me you see. I dont have mafia backing me up, I dont have town people backing me up, and I dont have any real plan of defense other than pointing out what’s happening to me from a different perspective. All I can do at this point is tell the truth, that I am a regular, vanilla citizen. I was playing thinking that death = loss, and I tailored my strategy accordingly. I admit that I’m not very helpful to the town at the moment, but lynching me will not help either.

Let’s say that again. Lynching me does the town no good, nada, zilch. Of course if I’m mafia, then you gain, but assuming for the sake of argument that I’m innocent, my death gains you nothing. I dont have any crumbs to drop, and nobody really cares about my death in either direction. I am chaff, and am being treated like it. When I play this game, lynching is taken much more seriously b/c death = game over, a loss, do not pass go, do not collect 200$. Here, we are treating it as a murderous tool, making us no better than mafia IMO. And, we still have the SK on the loose, making each lynching that much closer to total defeat for everyone. So far our lynches have failed to turn up anything majorly substantial, and ending the day early without more deliberation only helps the mafia. Sadly, b/c of my suspicious behavior, the mafia get to hop on this bandwagon without any fear of recrimination. Because of my behavior, I think the people organizing the “Kill Auto” campaign are overzealous citizens, but I’d look strongly on anybody expressing interest to kill me quickly and start the night again. I’ll leave that to you junior detectives to figure out who that is.

Again, lynching me will help nobody except the mafia, so, I have a proposal to make. I have a proposal to make!. I hereby humbly request that the Mafia kill me tonight. If I survive the night, you can lynch me tomorrow. If I dont survive, then it’s a moot point. Look, the lynch is a tool to us, and we should use it on somebody that will give out information. I am not that person.

Please kill me mafia. If you dont kill me, then the town will. I’d rather be shot than hung anyway, haha.

That’s all I have to say for now. I’ll talk in mob speak later. I didn’t post in it for now b/c it makes understanding me difficult to say the least.