Trust: myself, Rysto (with reservations), glee (with reservations)
Distrust: Enfant Terrible, Menoccio, Queuing, Aguecheek, Fern Forest
And I’m going to vote lynch Queuing, because I’m deeply suspicious of this whole “lynch sturmhauke” strategy, despite the fact that I’m not sure I actually trust sturmhauke.
Autolycus, if you turn up town, which I think you are, I’ll have no problem asking that you get banned from future games, as I think you’re breaking this one. If you’re mafia, you’re doing a good job at distracting the rest of us.
I’m a tad uncomfortable with the notion of “so-and-so has been quiet since he or she was called out” because this page grows a couple of pages every few hours. So three pages between responses shouldn’t necessarily count against someone. I say that not to defend Autolycus, because I am swiftly reaching the point of thinking he’s not only being annoying, but *intentionally * unhelpful, but because I’m sure there are players who might not even realize the game has officially started.
That said, I see several more people have stated what I said about Enfant Terrible. I’m going to go ahead and commit.
Vote Enfant Terrible.
**Autolycus ** on deck.
Dont strains too many brain cells on my account :rolleyes:
So if I’ve counted right, these are the votes so far:
(5) Autolycus - Enfant Terrible, Flying Cow of Doom, Gadarene, glee, Malacandra
(4) Sturmhauke - Aguecheek, Fern Forest, Menocchio, Queuing
(3) Enfant Terrible - Blaster Master, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach
(3) Queuing - Lakai, Winston Smith, Fretful Porpentine
(2) glee - Smitty, Suburban Plankton
(1) Aguecheek - Sturmhauke
(1) chrisk - MadTheSwine
(1) Gadarene - Rysto
Enlarging: The town must kill all the scum to win, but the scum win once they can outvote the town. I think the town’s higher death rate soon offsets their advantage in numbers - not that the SK’s got that much of an edge in telling scum from town, but if he could, he’d rather kill town.
(I knew there was a point I was trying to make here, but for a minute there, I couldn’t quite remember what it was.)
My god this thread is huge.
After thinking about Autolycus for a while, I think he’s just a poor playing townie looking for attention. Therefore, I’m going to unvote Autolycus. He’s still on my shit list, but I’m not ready to lynch him yet.
I trust: Rysto, glee, myself
I distrust: Autolycus, Enfant Terrible, Queuing, and Aguecheek
Since several people have the same thoughts I do about him, I’m going to go ahead and vote Enfant Terrible.
–FCOD
Thanks for the tally, CaerieD.
Y’know, Autolycus is not only a knucklehead, he’s a visible knucklehead. And I think there’s a non-zero chance that he’s just goofing around with the mafia-speak, although (1) as others have noted, it’s an idiotic thing to do; and (2) if he’s running a double bluff, it’ll become increasingly clear and we can pick him off at our leisure. If it’s true he’s just a vanilla who gets his kicks out of messing with us, it’ll hurt the town if we lynch him now.
So: unvote Autolycus
And, for the reasons stated by many others: lynch Enfant Terrible
Wow, simulpost. You and I think alike, FCOD. 
You are right on the money, CaerieD. I have made a spread sheet of my own, here
It lists who voted for whom, how many votes and unvotes each player has cast, a running tally of how many lynch votes each player has, and if you scroll down, there is a more detailed voting history so you can see the timing of each vote. This is current as of this post. I will update if anyone finds this useful.
Well, hell. By the time I posted, 2 more votes had occurred. Still, tell me if it’s useful and I will continue.
Thanks for the vote update, but I voted Queuing…
I also request that our mod do more frequent vote updates… I appreciate his efforts and all… but more frequent vote updates would be nice. maybe a couple times every day?
Ah, thanks, Smitty.
Gotcha, zuma. I’d noted votes alphabetically by voter’s name so I must have just missed you down on the bottom of my list.
After thinking about it further and having little further to go on in the Enfant Terrible camp, I think I’m going to have to vote Sturmhauke.
That’s all we’re asking for. non-idiotic posts. Now how about posting some real content?
Smitty the linik doesn’t work for me.
Never let it be said that I couldn’t get into the lynch-mob mentality. Unvote Autolycus. Lynch Enfant Terrible.
I still entertain doubts about **hocow ** for no particular reason, and **Autolycus ** because he’s being a dick.
I trust glee, **Gadarene ** and zuma.
As asked, by both Lakia and Zuma (I believe it was those 2 at least, I know they have voted for me at least), here is my defense and reasoning for posts # 268, 304, 322, 327 and 367.
I first asked for the experience of players to try to find out if people would lie about it. If people would deny knowing what they are doing, and then appear to do some tricky move. This would not be definitive, but with so little to go on I thought it might help. As I said in that post, it might not be a good idea. I suppose it wasn’t. (#268)
#304 and 367. This is when I cast my vote for Sturmhauke. My reasons are not very good, I admit. Who actually has good reasons right now though? Most of the reasons stated have to do with the analysis of posts. For this reason some of the more active people have been voted for and some of the people who are active but not saying anything substantive My vote was not based on who has said what but rather who has been killed, and who has been left alive. I explained my reasoning in #367. I think the Mafia killed Dnooman. This was to get rid of a good player. I think Sturmhauke played better last game,so I would have killed him if my goal was to get rid of the good players. I placed OAOW as the SK kill because he was calling for less talking about nothing cluttering up the thread. A cluttered thread helps the SK and Mafia as it makes it harder for the Citizens to re-read and analyze. That left Captain Carrot as the VG kill by default.
In #322 Pleonast says he mistrusts me for removing Enfant Terrible from my list of lynching. I did this because of Chrisk and his possible role claim. It might not be a role claim. It might just be a bad idea from him. However he did say he claimed to be a cop, of some flavour, and investigated Enfant who turned out to be Citizen. While I don’t believe Chrisk necessarily, and it may have been a hasty move by him, one that he has somewhat retracted, with so little to go on I don’t see how we can just dismiss this bit of information. I think Chrisk now needs to act like a cop, and each day he MUST give us information. This information we will act upon at some point. I have suggested day 3, as that would give us 3 people to choose from, unless he points at Mafia before then. If his information is wrong, we lynch him. Simple as that. Therefore for the same reason I don’t want to lynch Chrisk, I don’t want to lynch Enfant Terrible. I don’t see anything gained by lynching Enfant Terrible (unless of course he is Mafia) at this time. I think it better to make Chrisk keep telling us information, if he doesn’t we kill him. If he does, on the 3rd day we kill Enfant then. However I won’t be crushed if we do kill Enfant Terrible, my only reasoning for leaving him off is because of what Chrisk said and that is probably based on very bad information. However we have little information, good or bad at this point.
In post #327 I laid out my list of Trust/Distrust. At that time it was as follows:
Trust: Pleonast, Chrisk
Don’t Trust: Sturmhauke, Gaderene, pimaspinner
My reasons for distrusting Sturmhauke are out there. It isn’t for the best reasons, but again we have very little to go on. So there it is. By his mere existence I find it fishy. I don’t trust Gadarene (Did I spell it right this time? :)) because he posted numerous times during the night, and at that time had posted very little. This is no longer true. My reasoning was the same for pimaspinner. Posting about drinking, and then saying little during the day gives the appearance of posting a lot while actually saying very little. I trusted Pleonast because his list of people to mistrust/trust was similar to mine.
That is my reasoning so far. Does that make it any clearer?
So with Flying Cow of Doom and Gadarene’s updated votes, the list now looks like this:
(5) Enfant Terrible - Blaster Master, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach, Flying Cow of Doom, Gadarene
(4) Sturmhauke - Aguecheek, Fern Forest, Menocchio, Queuing
(3) Autolycus - Enfant Terrible, glee, Malacandra
(3) Queuing - Lakai, Winston Smith, Fretful Porpentine
(2) glee - Smitty, Suburban Plankton
(1) Aguecheek - Sturmhauke
(1) chrisk - MadTheSwine
(1) Gadarene - Rysto
I’ve re-read the whole thread - this game may get me fired - and thoughts abound:
I trust:
sturmhauke: The big push to lynch him based on fairly vague reasoning makes me think that he is definitely town, and that somewhere among those who have voted for him there might be a Mafioso trying to get us to eliminate one of our stronger assets without wasting a night kill.
Rysto: For the spreadsheet, and also for the way he has approached the game so far from an analysis standpoint.
chrisk: I don’t see his change in strategies to be a bad thing; I read it as someone who presented what he thought would be a pro-town idea, and then when given arguments against it dropped it. Sticking too closely to a strategy that the town as a whole thinks won’t work seems like a bad play.
I don’t trust:
Aguecheek, Fern Forest, Menocchio, Queuing: Because they are the voters for sturmhauke. I definitely don’t think all of them are Mafia, but I think one of them might be.
Autolycus is hard to figure. The thing is, he’s essentially doing exactly what I’ve accused Enfant Terrible of doing: he’s refusing to engage in the game, making a bunch of content-free posts to satisfy the requirement that he participate but never contributing anything that might help his ostensible team win the game. This is exactly how I’d expect Mafia to behave. Gadarene is saying that we’ll be able to tell if he’s running a double bluff, but I can’t see how we’d do that if he never posts any actual content at all. But I’d hate to waste a perfectly good lynch on someone who’s just trying to mess around with us, and…
Enfant Terrible still hasn’t addressed my concerns in any meaningful way. Pending further information, I -
vote Enfant Terrible
storyteller0910:
I agree with this reasoning.
Corrected and updated with the newest votes:
(6) Enfant Terrible - Blaster Master, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach, Malacandra, Flying Cow of Doom, storyteller0910
(5) Sturmhauke - Aguecheek, Fern Forest, Menocchio, Queuing, CaerieD
(3) Autolycus - Enfant Terrible, Gadarene, glee
(3) Queuing - Lakai, Winston Smith, zuma
(2) glee - Smitty, Suburban Plankton
(1) chrisk - MadTheSwine
(1) Gadarene - Rysto
(1) Aguecheek - Sturmhauke