I can assure you a concensus has not been reached.
I was wondering if there could be 10 mafia members when it only takes 10 votes to lynch someone? There has to be less than 10 right?
Are posts outside of this thread admissible as evidence of a posters behavior?
If so, chrisk’s behavior after posting the ODS seems dumbed down from his usual posts at SDMB. While I still would like to vote from the list that voted for Enfant (Pleonast specifically), I wouldn’t mind seeing chrisk get lynched.
Unvote Pleonast. Vote chrisk.
And lest the day slip by without me getting a vote in, vote aguecheek.
Sheesh, I can’t even read my own list right!
I don’t want to bandwagon **chrisk ** without a little more discussion so my vote should be brewha.
Unvote chrisk. I’m still convinced that he’s scum, but I don’t want to see anybody speed-lynched here. We can always vote for chrisk at any time – there’s no rush.
I’m going to cast a vote to lynch FlyingCowOfDoom because she seems to have a pattern of hopping onto incipient bandwagons (Autolycus, the late lamented Enfant Terrible, and now chrisk).
MonkeyMensch, you’ve got two votes now, you probably want to go ahead and put your unvote of aguecheek in red if that’s what you meant to do.
Oh, we do have a forbidden thread. I thought the nacho talk was just that.
Looks at the camera and pulls earlobe
First of all, I’m a guy.
Second of all, I was the second vote for Autolycus…and let’s be honest, he brought a lot of attention to himself. Yeah, I jumped on the Enfant Terrible bandwagon, but that was an honest mistake that several of us made.
As far as chrisk goes, I theorized about him on the first day and I’m simply following up on that line of reasoning. I was the second person to vote for him, so while I may have helped to start the bandwagon rolling, I certainly didn’t just jump on. At any rate, I still belive he’s suspicious, and my vote stands.
–FCOD
Yes, thank you FernForest: unvote chrisk.
I am so tired. Cancel that last post. I need food and coffee…
That should read unvote aquecheek, not chrisk.
Arghhhhh. No editing sucketh.
If I were having to lay breadcrumbs, I don’t think I would throw down the entire loaf of bread ala Trust: Menocchio. **Blaster Master ** is the crumb we should be following.
Just in case I don’t get to check in again before the lynching: knot the noose for Blaster Master.
Going with my gut now and voting Pleonast. I’m suspicious of the continued pressing for trust lists. Taking into account Pleonast’s own “hypothetical” list and Blaster Master’s fake one, it makes it too easy to cast suspicion in a certain direction, without giving reasons. The “casual player” that it’s supposedly intended for would be more helped by an analysis of why someone should be trusted or mistrusted. A simple list of names could too easily be a coded message of who the Mafia should vote for now, and perhaps sway non-Mafia members who see someone being “trusted” or “mistrusted” by so many other players.
Man, this day is wide open. I believe this is how things look.
(3) Blaster Master (Queuing, Gadarene, pimaspinner)
(2) brewha (Fern Forest, MonkeyMensh)
(4) chrisk (FCoD, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach, Lakai)
(1) FlyingCowOfDoom (Fretful Porpentine)
(1) Gadarene (chrisk)
(1) nesta (Sturmhauke)
(1) Queuing (Zuma)
(1) Pleonast (Kat)
Blaster Master seems a little too helpful to be scum. And is second in posts only to NAF1138.
**brewha **I’ve only got a slight suspicion. I’d like to call the witness to the stand. Where were you last night?
**chrisk **is still reeling from that idea on the first day
**FCOD **I still don’t see
**Gadarene **handled my accusation really well.
**nesta **I’ve going to have to read up on.
**Queuing **seems to have got on a lot of bad sides but with few willing to pull the trigger. Their action is more suspicious to me then Q’s.
Pleonast I could vote for.
Well there’s not much to go on, that’s how I got done so fast. I’m leaning towards town but I’d like **nesta **to cast a vote and explain the reasoning.
If you please.
I think the trust/mistrusts lists can be a useful tool, but only if people actually give reasons for each name on the list. An uncommented list doesn’t give any real information about the player posting it, and information is our only resource here.
The original purpose of the trust/mistrust lists was to give the Cops a channel to give out their findings. Forcing people to justify their trust/mistrust lists completely defeats the point – what’s a Cop supposed to say? The problem is magnified if their read goes against the general feeling. I’m actually not opposed to people saying who they feel is trustworthy and who they distrust, but I want to make it very clear to Cops that this isn’t the best way to get their findings out, because accurate yet unsubstantiated trusts or mistrusts will scream “COP” to the Mafia.
By all means, the Cops should be leaving breadcrumbs. But for heaven’s sake, be subtle about it. Explicit “trust/mistrust” lists aren’t subtle.
I disagree with this assertion, this is the point of my suggestion to name a definitive VIG nighttime target, so that the person who IS targetted gets a chance to defend himself during the day and it isn’t so much a surprise like it was last night (whichever of the two targets the VIG killed). Here’s a few scenarios of how the SK/VIG play out, in order of what I think is best for us at this point.
VIG and SK alive: 1 lynch (pro-town), 1 mafia (anti-town), 1 SK (50/50), and 1 VIG (pro-town). That’s 2.5-1.5 in favor of the town, that puts us up one kill per day.
VIG kills SK: 1 lynch, 1 mafia, +1 confirmed townie. That puts us even on kills with the mafia.
SK dead by lynch or mafia: 1 lynch, 1 mafia, no confirmed townie. Obviously, slightly worse than the previous case.
VIG dead, SK alive: 1 lynch, 1 mafia, 1 SK (almost certainly switches sides). Probably puts us at a HUGE disadvantage.
At this point, the SK is just as much a threat to both the town and mafia, so it makes no sense to target him with our lynchings. Unless the SK is already COMPLETELY favoring the mafia, the first case is CLEARLY to our advantage at this point. Chances are, the SK will be taken out by accident with either a lynch, mafia hit, or VIG kill, so we shouldn’t worry about getting him until at least mid-game.
Holy crap! 2 Votes! Sorry for the little contribution. I was out of town the last couple of days (just away from the comp actually, but trying to stay in character). I just got my eyes LASIK’d and I wasn’t supposed to be on the comp for a couple of days. I haven’t really read anything since pg 12, I just skimmed thru and saw that I was under suspicion.
I assure you I am merely a vanilla townie. I had a theory that the first person to post after someone’s death may be mafia since they would like to seem concerned. I called MonkeyM on it and he didn’t seem to defend himself very well.
I’ll contribute more after I get a chance to catch up on the reading. Hopefully I’ll survive that long.
Then, pimaspinner, I expect you can provide good reasoning why her breadcrumb is more likely to be that I SHOULDN’T be trusted than that Menocchio should be? If not, it looks VERY suspicious to me that both you and Gadarene are voting for me for the same unsubstantiable reason.