Is this a claim, Auto? 
We have lost 6 people but even if we lost 8 townies in the next two days and nights it’s still possible to win. Very hard but not impossible. We’re down but not in desperation yet.
I think it’s actually expected the town to drop behind in the early rounds as they have little to go on while all the Mafia are in the know. But later our odds will improve. That the last game got the Alpha Wolf on the first day has to be extremely rare.
I’d like to propose that we’ve finished or have nearly finished the primary season. If you’ve made your arguments to go after someone but no one else agrees then you probably should change your vote. Otherwise we’d have to wait till Wednesday and sunset and our pressure strategy is less effective. We should discuss exactly when the countdown should start.
I live in Hawaii Standard Time. I am 3 hours behind California’s PST. Monday I wont be able to get to the internet till a little after 7 o’clock PST. We need to make sure the accused does indeed have a chance to defend themselves and that we have a chance to see that and react accordingly. Unfortunately for me I’m a far away from most other people and so should have a bit of conflict with the rest of you.
I think Aguecheek is right that there isn’t much more information likely to be gleaned this round, and Fern Forest is right that it’s time to start consolidating our voting blocs. Remember that lynching someone is the first and best way for the town to figure things out, especially now that our detective is gone.
With that in mind, I’m switching votes.
unvote Blaster Master
vote Pleonast
As I’ve made clear, I think that lynching either of the two above is likely to help us unravel a scum network. I’m comfortable bandwagoning whichever one looks most likely to get the necessary votes.
My lips is sealed
Just to make it easy for people here are her posts:
Post 261
Post 296
Post 326
Post 335
Post 341
Post 445
Post 433
Post 440
Post 445
Post 448
Post 450
Post 458
Post 476
Post 489
These are only day posts, with the exception of the last one which was made after Enfant’s death.
You want to lynch me “just to see what happens”? :dubious:
What are you expecting to happen? I still don’t understand what I’m doing do set off your and Blaster Master’s FOS. But so far, it’s only the two of you who seem out to get me. That is suspicious to me. I’m beginning to think the two of you are in cahoots somehow. For now, I’ll stick to my original vote, but I’m keeping my eye on you as well.
These are some of my thoughts so far. Please don’t be offended if over or under analyzed anyone. This is taking a long time, and I’m starting to get tired. (I’ve been working on this for almost 5 hours) 
Aguecheek – no posts of substance until #393 where discusses role assignment, votes to lynch sturmhauke, and casts a FOS on Autolycus. In #400, he discusses the SK, and again casts suspicion on sturmhauke for not being killed. In post #731 he notes that Blaster Master called for the SK or VIG to take out CaerieD, our departed Detective. **Aguecheek ** hasn’t pinged my MafiaMeter
ArizonaTeach – hasn’t said much, but not making any sirens go off for me.
Autolycus – annoying, yes. Did kind of say he was suspicious of Blaster Master. But I agree that we can’t glean any useful information from his death right now. I still have a hunch that he’s the SK, but that’s only based on the way he’s crazy playing his character.
Blaster Master – too many posts for me to list them all, and I have previously laid out some of my suspicions about him. My vote for Blaster stands.
brewha – hasn’t contributed much yet, due to LASIK, he’s suspicious of Blaster Master and** MonkeyMensch**.
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chrisk** – bowing out. I don’t think we should lynch him as again I agree that we can’t get any information from his posts. Let his sub come in and see what happens.
Fern Forest – the jury is still out. I agree that it’s time to turn up the heat a little and hear from the people who are on the lynching list. We need information. To answer her question in post #734, yes, I am saying that Blaster Master was probably her breadcrumb.
Flying Cow of Doom – I pointed the FOS at FCOD early on, and he hasn’t really said anything one way or the other to sway me. Hasn’t really done anything suspicious, but hasn’t convinced me he isn’t scum either.
Fretful Porpentine – right now I like Fretful ‘cause he’s from my neck o’ the woods, and his suspicions are along the same lines as mine.
Gadarene – I’ve pretty much agreed with his last few comments, so I’m thinking Gadarene is town.
**glee ** – no alarms so far.
hocow – in post #725, he theorizes that Blaster Master may be the SK. I don’t know about being the SK, but I don’t think Blaster Master is working on the side of good, as I have said before. I’m inclined to think right now that hocow is town.
Kat – not setting off any alarms right now.
**Kivvik ** – same, no alarms.
**Lakai ** – was on Blaster Master’s early trust lists for no apparent reason. Blaster Master ** tried to backtrack his trust lists by saying he filled them with “hogwash” to lay a scum trap. I think he was just trying to cover up his mistake. ** Lakai notes that it looks like Queuing is trying to fish out intelligent players in post #295, then casts a vote for Queuing. In post
#381 **Lakai ** again levies suspicion on Queuing, because he didn’t want the lynch **Enfant ** Terrible, and lists **Blaster ** **Master ** in the trust column. In post #636 he notes the certainty that some Mafia voted for Enfant. Of this list, I think that the Mafia votes were from Pleonast, Blaster Master, and FlyingCowOfDoom. I don’t think **Winston ** realized that his 10th vote would drop the gallows so suddenly, because that’s not how it happened in the last game. I’m one of the ones who misguidedly voted for Enfant, because at the time, I thought that **Blaster ** **Master ** was working on the side of good, and was trusting his judgement. Then in one of his next posts, **Lakai ** says he thinks **Blaster ** **Master ** is mafia. I am not sure which camp to put **Lakai ** in right now.
**MadTheSwine ** – not a clue as to which side he’s on.
**Malacandra ** – don’t have a good read yet.
**Menocchio ** – not sure what to think. I don’t like his reasoning that we should lynch **Autolycus ** or **chrisk ** per post #809
**MonkeyMensch ** – no alarms.
**nesta ** – no alarms.
**pimaspinner ** – I’m town.
**Pleonast ** – first vote for Enfant
**Pygmy ** **Rugger ** – don’t see any suspicious behavior
**Queuing ** – I’m still inclined to think he’s town, because his thinking so far has been about the same as mine.
**Rysto ** – not sure, not sure at all.
**Smitty ** – no alarms ringing.
**StarvingButStrong ** – no alarm bells here either.
**Storyteller0910 ** – not a lot of posts to go on, no sirens here.
**Sturmhauke ** – other than not being dead, no one has given me a reason to think he’s suspicious.
**Suburban ** **Plankton ** – hasn’t really done anything yet to ping my suspicion-o-meter.
**Winston ** **Smith ** – other than casting the 10th vote for Enfant, I don’t find anything nefarious with Winston.
**Zuma ** – I haven’t got a good read here either.
Dnooman-Whacked Night 1- Citizen
Captain Carrot- Whacked Night 1- Mason
One and Only Wanderers- Whacked Night 1- Citizen
Enfant Terrible – Lynched Day 1- Citizen
**CaerieD ** – Whacked Night 2- Detective
**cowgirl ** – Whacked Night 2- Citizen
Other than thinking that **Autolycus ** might be the SK, I don’t really have any (except for the dead ones) idea who any of the power roles are. I don’t even know if anyone else will find these notes helpful in any way, but it gave me a chance to line things up in my own mind. And just because someone hasn’t raised my suspicions, doesn’t mean I trust them. I think we need to get this next lynching right, which is why I agree with Fern Forest that the heat needs to be turned up.
Upon reflection, I wonder if Malacandra and Blaster Master are in cahoots in a good way…
I’m leaning towards scum, but I can’t help but wonder if maybe they could be masons? I need to look at it from all angles I suppose.
Yesterday? I didn’t realize there wasn’t a countdown and I was just trying to provoke action. I don’t want this goddamned game to last 3 months. If there’s one thing we learned from that whole sordid affair it’s type faster.
Trying to get wheels under your lynch Winston bandwagon? Stop wasting your time. I smell what you’re cookin’ and it stinks.
Guys, just so you know, I’ll be very busy over the next 24 hours, so I probably won’t have a chance to post here during that time. We’ll see how things go.
A quick rules clarification question: The Detective is the same as the ‘Seer’ from WereWolf, right? Always right, unless they investigate the Godfather? Or is modern investigative science better than ancient augury and they always see who they look at as what they truly are?
No, if they investigate a Godfather, he comes up as town.
Gotcha, thanks Lakai While not accusing anyone of anything, it does mean we must all keep in mind that even the Detective cannot definitely know that someone is a true Citizen.
small note to those who like making lists: Please do not capitalize the first letter of my name. It’s just a small pet peeve of mine 
Wow. Well, here we go. The first thing I have learned is this: do not, under any circumstances, leave this board unread for more than 24 hours. Catching up is hell. I’ve re-read the last Day’s worth of posts three times in a row, and I’m still having trouble sorting out the various plotlines here. That said, I’d like to wade in here. Here are my thoughts, in no particular order:
RYSTO: His post many, many pages ago analyzing the effect of the trust lists was really, really good. I certainly didn’t think about it that way, and neither did a lot of posters. I’m not I’m even ready to credit the Mafia with having thought about it that way - which is my way of saying that I don’t know if Pleonast or the-player-formerly-known-as-chrisk ought to be lynched solely on the basis of inventing the trust list ideas.
FERN FOREST: Seems to be pushing for an early resolution to the day, which is suspicious to me given how dreadfully that went the last time. However, she did describe sturmhauke, Autolycus, chrisk, and Enfant Terrible as “three people I think they [the Mafia] want us to kill for them and one we did.” I agree with this analysis; more on this later in this post.
GADARENE: Very suspicious to me. He’s still pushing on sturmhauke a little bit, and the only reason still seems to be that sturmhauke is still alive. He was also pushing to lynch Blaster Master, then positively leaped onto the Pleonast train for the explicit purpose of speeding up the lynching process, which (I had thought) we had generally agreed didn’t work so well the last time around.
ZUMA: Has been a pretty consistent voice of reason and has argued in favor of avoiding rushes to judgment. Voted for Pygmy Rugger basically because he wanted to speed the rush to judgment. Seems highly unlikely to be scum.
PIMASPINNER: Honest question: I don’t understand your reasoning for believing that CaerieD’s breadcrumb was against Blaster Master and not “for” Mennocchio. The odds that our Detective nailed scum on the first shot seem modest. Plus, it makes more sense pyschologically for the Detective to investigate someone who played in the last game (Mennochio), just as everyone else targeted a former player that first Night.
BLASTER MASTER: Boy, I think we’d be making a huge mistake lynching him. His analysis has been pretty good and useful, and I’m not buying most of the arguments against him. Fortunately, that bandwagon seems to be losing steam.
PLEONAST: Here’s the thing: last Day, we all piled onto Enfant Terrible. Our buildup to lynching was marked by ET’s failure to answer the charges, which was regarded as suspcious. Now we’re kind of doing the same thing to Pleonast. I certainly don’t see evidence of any kind sufficient to push him closer to lynching before he has a chance to come in here and answer the charges. If we had waited on lynching ET to hear his defense, we might well have rethought the decision.
Anyway, that’s a lot of analysis and no vote, I know. Right now, I’m seizing on Fern Forest’s statement quoted above: ie, that sturmhauke, Autolycus, chrisk, and Enfant Terrible are “three people I think they want us to kill for them and one we did.” On the basis of this statement, I propose the following:
Resolved: That at least one of the people who has called for the lynching of **sturm, Auto, **or chrisk is probably Mafia, and that cross-referencing that list with the list of people who did vote for Enfant Terrible might produce useful information.
If anyone likes my reasoning in the above post, I’ll start cross-referencing; let me know what y’all think.
Guess I should be happy the first time I get a shout-out it’s not an accusation…but still, would it have hurt you to include the fact that I’m so gosh-darn sexy to the ladies?
Figure I might as well say that my Spring Break is over, so I doubt I’ll be posting or reading much during school hours on weekdays now.
As far as the game goes, I’m still eyeing chrisk, but there have been some very powerful arguments for breaking the perceived mafia clusters that I have said from the beginning I’ve been suspicious of.
I finally got caught up in the reading. Wow that’s a lot. Here’s my thoughts. Blaster Master has been very vocal in leading this town. He probably has about the most written in this thread. So why hasn’t the mob chosen to silence him? There’s only one answer for me:
Lynch Blaster Master
Cite?
Unless maybes youz a mafia eh? I is suspicious-like too of tha guy, but he’s gots sum good ideers.
We just need to come to a general consensus on whether we wish to start forcing confession/defense posts in order to drag information out of people or to continue as we are, with the various accusations and responses.
The former option has the possibility of shortening the day with its aggressive lynching attempts, but remember that we have the 12 hour Window of Life and that we can unvote them (should they show themselves trustworthy enough) to end the countdown and return to our regularly scheduled programming. Or we might find someone who, for whatever reason be it poor debating skills or no good defensive stance, really pings our meters and we have a lychee to get all CSI over the next day in hopes that they had a secret note sewn into the cuff of a pants leg.
The latter gives us pretty much maximum time for everyone to chime in with their thoughts and feelings, but there’s not as much pressure and chance for someone to crack. We would also run the possibility of not being able to settle onto a good choice and the day’s ending forcing a lynching, as I doubt the 12 hour WoL will go into effect if we run out of time. Otherwise the day could go on forever as we vote, unvote, vote again.
Those three are **glee,Winston Smith ** and storyteller0910.
I reviewed the thread starting at page 7.
The only one that said anything like he might be away was storyteller0910 and on top of that didn’t really say he was going to be away,just not able to add in depth analysis(Post 590).
storyteller0910 and my beloved Winston Smith both voted for Enfant.
**Winston ** trusts storyteller in post 457
The point is… Pygmy got his threads confused and posted things here that were said in the Mafia thread.
I think these 4 goons need to be looked at,along with pimaspinner who defends all 4 of them in post 847.
Unvote Pleonast
Vote Pygmy Rugger