Queuing, in Post #1256:
Personally, I find this claim shocking. Shocking! :eek:
While I appreciate the vote of confidence, the game will move on regardless of us getting a consensus. Frankly the only way out is to lynch someone. Since JSexton came out against me, and BM had the ability to role claim (perhaps by playing a better game then I, he kept leaving little comments about being sorry, and hinting at a power role, which I did not do. This makes me believe him less, as I think he set it up so he could claim. Best case for him he lives and gets some more townies, worst case someone counter claims and the scum know who the real role is, giving them another good target. Of course I am looking at this as already distrusting him. You could also see it as him just, you know, being honest or something) it seemed my neck was on the line. This is why I urge you to vote in Orange for one from the other side. IMO it should be Zuma as he has not claimed, and it will not interfere with any role claims. If, as I think you will, you find out he is scum, well go after the so-called Mason Pleonast next, and direct BM to kill JSexton at night. IMO this will get us 3 scum at the very least, 4 if BM is not as he claims as well.
Zuma this further fishing for claims is just making me more and more happy to help the town direct BM’s killing at YOU.
I have claimed numerous times.
I am nothing but a vanilla citizen
Don’t be fooled. Queuing is doomed. He knows it. He’s trying to garner sympathy by acting the honorable townie - “Fine. I accept my fate, do as you will. But remember…blah, blah, blah…”. Plus he’s still at 10 votes without you.
You think we should lynch someone with a less compelling argument, eh? Well, think about it for a while, and maybe we’ll string them up next.
It certainly appears that Gadarene and Queuing are not scum together, despite the similarity in their positions. Look, they’ve both said that if one of them is lynched and comes up scum, the other should be vigged. I really don’t see scum saying that at such a late juncture, where it appears that the lynch of them is inevitable.
Therefore, I have to think now that exactly one of them is scum. (Or neither, I suppose, but if that’s the case I give up.) Both have pinged my scumdar, but I think Queung hit it harder. Right now now, I’d like to see him hang, and for Gadarene to be vigged only if Queing comes up town. If Queing comes up scum, I nominate Aguecheek for vigging. Pleonast has claimed Mason, Zuma still feels town to me, and I know I’m town.
I’m fishing for YOUR claim because you’re over the limit. Seems like you are fishing for mine. In any event, Pleanast has claimed and will be outed, saving your ass, before the deadline if he’s full of it. We’re just waiting for Blaster Master to give us his target. I’d find it incredible if BM targeted me, as I defended him against your suspicious arguments, and as much as I wish he targeted JSexton, who found me the most town, btw, I am willing, because im town, to go with gadarene.
This makes no sense at all. At all.
zuma:
Okay, for the final time, let’s get this straight. Blaster Master does not give us his target. We give him his target. Got that?
And if we (by plurality vote) tell him to assassinate you, he better damn well do it. I’m not going to have either myself or Queuing needlessly sacrificed just for everyone in your apparent alliance to get off scot-free. That’s both ludicrous and transparent.
Once again: can anyone comment on the math in my post #1217? Please. Thank you.
Now that’s a good idea. I wish I’d thought of it, it seems so obvious now. I’m not sure Pleonast is the best target if Queuing doesn’t turn out to be scum, though. He’s claimed mason. If we take him out we lose his ability to confirm other masons. If he isn’t a mason hopefully tomorrow the real masons can steer us to his demise without having to claim themselves. If Queuing isn’t scum I think we should have Blaster Master take out zuma.
Unless you are a mason, and this is your way to have Pleonast taken out. This game hurts my head.
I still think Gadarene is scum, and by extension Queuing is too. I hope I’m right about both of them, because then we’ll have two Mafia kills in one night, which will make all the difference. They are trying hard to get us to off one from the other side instead of one of them. I can’t really credit this, though. If they were scum, they’d really want to minimize the damage as much as possible since they’re already on the block. If they were town they’d be making exactly the same argument to help the town out.
Well this is just ridiculous. Considering I was in much less danger, and could have talked my way into a tie potentially with Pleonast, until I you know, suggested we do it, and urged the people who agreed with me to go ahead and kill me.
Whatever though.
How about an orange vote from you?
On preview, here comes JSexton trying to muddy the water by throwing some other person to vote on out there. This is just an attempt at further confusion, please do not buy what he is selling. Vote for one of the antagonists in this thread. And do it in orange, and do it sooner rather then later. And vote for the different sides. This is simple folks. Ignore what the other side is saying. Can’t you see that they know they are scum, and are trying desperately to get as many town out as possible before they go?
It makes NO SENSE to pick on one side of the argument, yet that is what **JSexton and Zuma ** want from you. Or for BM to act as an independent tool
Zuma calling AGAIN for BM to act as an independent source. Holy smokes, how can you possibly still be saying this?
From what I can tell, this is how the BM killing votes are going:
If I am scum, its Gadarene
If I am town, its Zuma.
BM does not get a choice. If this does not happen, he dies tomorrow, quickly.
Lets get some yays/nays for this plan.
Why? Tell me what I can do to assuage your suspicions so that we don’t lose more citizens than we can reasonably help over the night.
Queuing:
An emphatic YAY.
Got it. And his target will be you or??? Regardless, he’ll chime in with his target soon (he better) and then we can discuss it.
His target will be whoever we tell him his target will be. Why do you persist in misunderstanding this? As far as I’m concerned, Blaster Master doesn’t need to chime in at all until we’ve decided which person he should target (or, in the case of a conditional target, which two people). And even then, he need only say, “Got it, town. I do your bidding tonight.” No argument from him. As Queuing says, Blaster Master should now be nothing more than a targeted killing machine doing what a plurality of the town wants—and only what a plurality of the town wants.
That you keep mischaracterizing what it seems that everyone else comprehends is very unsettling to me.
YO ZUMA!
Check your PM man, got a question for you.
Queuing is also tainted. A vanilla townie who talks himself out of being lynched will have extremely limited capacity to direct town without a Det or Cop vouching for him. Meaning he’s worth less then a regular vanilla townie.
Unvote Pleonast
Lynch Queuing
I think the Doc should protect who they want, let’s not tell the Mafia who and maybe the two will converge and they lose a kill.
BM if Queuing is town then I’d like you to kill Zuma, he seemed a little off the last few pages. If Q is scum then go for Gadarene. If you’re really lucky though Q is the SK and you become a vanilla townie and might make it through the night.
I think both the Mafia and the Town will be gunning for the SK tomorrow. SK, you’ll be able to more easily hide among the town, try and kill a mafia.
sigh, or what other people are saying. I’m off to work, I guess one of you will be dead when I get back. Fair thee well.
Orange vote? Ok, then. I’ll vote to Vig
Assassinate MadTheSwine
Primarily because I’m feeling sentimental for his unyielding yelping for my blood, and can’t think of any other way to get him posting again than mortal threat.
Why do you keep insisting on him having a say?
Blaster Master’s only words should be:
“Yes Town”.
We do not need to discuss it.
The plan is simple.
I die. NAF reveals who I am. There are only 2 conclusions he can give: I am scum. I am town.
Lets do option A:
I am scum. Gadarene and I have been on the same page. It is reasonable to assume that Gadarene is scum. Gadarene dies at the hands of BM.
Lets do option B:
I am town. Gadarene and I have been on the same page. It is reasonable to assume that Gadarene may be town. Zuma has voted for me every day, he keeps assuming that BM gets a say in how he as a tool should be used (odd that I have never asked a hammer if it thinks hitting that nail is good), therefore Zuma dies at the hands of BM.
These 2 options will lead to further information. In option A Gadarene is Scum or Gadarene is town. In option B Zuma is scum or Zuma is town.
The end result of option A is 2 Scum dead, and potential more scum found, such as Pygmy or Pima, both who have agreed with our thinking for a while.
The end result of option B is 1 townie dead, 1 scum dead. However the trail from Zuma to other scum is easily followed, leading to Pleonast, JSexton and who knows from there.
Therefore there are only 2 options of what happens today and tonight. I die today. And Zuma or Gadarene dies tonight, depending on what NAF reveals. All other plans make no sense, and are just attempts to confuse and muddy the waters.
Did you even read my post? Why would scum who was already at 10+ votes, say to the town to vig his own scum buddy if he himself comes up scum? It’s silly. Therefore, I can’t believe that you two are both scum together.
My brain hurts. :eek:
I’ll vote for this:
The Town lynch Queuing today.
If Queuing is Mafia, Blaster Master kills Gadarene tonight.
If Queuing is a Citizen, Blaster Master kills Zuma tonight.
If Blaster Master does not kill, the town lynch him tomorrow.
The Doctor saves Blaster Master (or Pleonast) tonight.
Did you even read your own post? You are calling for people on the same side of the debate to be killed. All because you “don’t think Zuma is scum”. Well frankly, sir, it no longer matters what any of us think IMO. There are only 2 options. They do not require thinking, they require common sense. In case you missed it, here is your post:
Bolding and embiggening mine. We must not kill 2 members of the same side. We only gain info from killing the other side as well.
Unless you know, I read my PM from NAF wrong, and have been Scum all along, then sure go ahead and kill Gadarene