When’s the vote reveal? I’ve been drinking for 48 hours straight now…and am down to mixing nail polish remover and NyQuil.
Does DAY TWO begin as soon as the reveal of the “wolf kill” is made?
And by “vote” reveal I of course mean “wolf kill” reveal, as Mahaloth notes
Sorry about that. Couldn’t get to the computer in time.
Scuba_Ben, an Ordinary Farmer is dead.
Okay. Day ends Noon on Friday, EST.
Testerizer happens Noon on Tuesday, EST (because I’m not around Midnight).
Looks like a standard kill of an experienced player. Scuba didn’t mention any meaningful suspicions or the list. Their only non-november vote was self-described as random.
Eww. Scraps of fins and snorkel are everywhere. Looks like we have some aquatic werewolves on our hands.
Well, Scuba was making and maintaining the Google doc for us, right? I’m assuming he can’t do that anymore now that he’s dead, right?
Yeah, at this point I don’t think there’s much to be gleaned from choice of target.
Unfortunately, since our lynch yesterday was of someone with no votes or even posts, and was unanimous we are not in a position of having much in the way of information from Day One votes.
My re-read didn’t produce anything earthshaking, other than that I noticed a number of people who did not answer questions asked them. I don’t think this is a good precedent to set, and I think that not answering questions can be scummy behaviour. I’ll be looking for that in the future.
Anyone can edit the doc, so we should be able to continue to use it, unless the mod deems that invalid.
I just made an edit to change the “Testerizer” wording highlighted in orange in cell 1A (top left). No significance there, was just confirming that anyone can edit file.
So I made some fairly significant changes to the spreadsheet, I hope everyone can see them.
One thing it helped me realize is that by pure odds there are likely 2 experienced players on the scum team. They got rid of one of our experienced players.
I’m going to guess that on the wolf team, the inexperienced players are going to a) say little and b) be coached.
So perhaps the best info we’ll get right now (from a “who’s a wolf” POV) is from the experienced players. Right now, I’m leaning towards our next Testerizer vote be for an experienced player.
It’s a little risky, but i agree. The cost is that we rather need experienced (town) players in order to kill effectively.
One thing to keep in mind: If it looks like you’re going to be testerized then I think it is in the town’s interest for you to declare your full alignment before going in. Starting today we should expect arguments about whether a person’s test results imply that we shouldn’t lynch them and having pre-declared roles are helpful.
I’ll have that drink now, please…
I assume by “full allignment” you mean whether we are a farmer or rancher.
I think people are only going to be willing to reveal their “farmer” or “rancher” status if we drop the lynch-who-we-test practice.
Well, farmer/rancher and special status (Do we have any special roles in the game? None were mentioned but people seem to be assuming yes). I think the default today is lynch who we test, but it may be worth making exceptions in certain cases. Mostly I want to know whether someone is claiming to be an ordinary rancher when they go into the machine. If yes and they get different results than november’s then we should really go ahead and lynch. If they are claiming to be an ordinary farmer and get one similar/one different, then they may still be telling the truth.
I don’t see the value of asking people to claim a role before being tested. Either they’ll be lynched shortly in which case we’ll know their full role anyway. Or we’ll decide to lynch someone else.
It might be worthwhile to demand a role claim after someone is tested if we’re waffling about whether to lynch the testee or someone else. But they’ll either tell the truth or lie. The wolves won’t night-kill a tested person prior to our figuring out the testerizer because that will confirm their role to us and give us another data point. Or the tested person is a werewolf, in which case the wolves won’t kill them either.
So until the tested person ends up dead we can’t trust any of their role claims so I don’t see the point of demanding a role claim.
I don’t think logistically the “demand a role” prior to testing will work either - in some cases, the vote may change very late in the game, and we can’t assume everyone will be online/available to make that claim prior to the vote. And we get the results immediately.
I also think that we’re forgetting that the win-game scenario is not wolf vs. town. While we need to ferret out the wolves as a priority, ranchers and farmers have their own reasons to keep mum about their role.
Let’s pick a testee and see what colors come up. Unless the colors match november’s, we lynch. There is probably zero reason at this point to lynch someone whose colors match november’s.
It will be interesting to see what arguments, if any, are made against lynching a testee whose colors don’t match november’s this time around.
At this point, we are down one farmer and one rancher, so neither side has an edge on the other yet. Since it is still early in the game, the game essentially is town vs wolf - for now. Role claims can be faked, so until we work out the testeriser a bit more, AND we take out a wolf or two, it is too messy to play rancher vs farmer.
I expect that will change very quickly, though.
We know that an ordinary rancher is GREEN RED
An ordinary farmer is very likely but not certainly GREEN * or * Red
A werewolf could be anything.
Power roles, if they exist, would probably mean that the testerizer is giving out [color alignment] [color special].
Two important cases:
1.) A werewolf is about to be tested. If they claim they are an ordinary rancher, they better have at least one color matching november’s (probably two). If they claim to be an ordinary farmer, the situation is different. once we’ve seen the colors of an ordinary farmer neither claim will be entirely safe. Since werewolves don’t know their own colors they’d be shooting in the dark.
2.) If someone has special powers and doesn’t want to die i’d much rather have them claim that before the testerizer gives odd results than after.
Also there’s no loss to us. Test-> kill unless we have good reason to do otherwise. A role claim can only help the town.
I agree that if we test, we should kill. If we don’t, we’ve wasted valuable information. Granted, we were told that the testerizer may not be as important as we think it is, but so far it’s the only really concrete thing we have to go on. So I agree that all role claiming and supposed role claiming should come before a test.
Regardless of role-claiming or not, we have very little time to discuss and vote - approximately 36 hours, including a Sunday nite and a workday. Testerizer is Tue 10am!
I will definitely post some further thoughts on my testee vote this evening, and would recommend/ask that others begin to do the same.