And that will bode very nicely for the Obama Administration, and hopefully for this nation.
Or, if you use the most recent polling numbers (as electoral-vote.com does in their election maps):
Obama 41, McCain 47
Clinton 43, McCain 45
With Clinton getting an electoral vote majority regardless of the loss of the “bellwether” state of MO.
Since we are parsing numbers, here are some interesting ones:
Primary turn-out in West Va is looking to be about 320K. Significantly more than came out in the Democratic primary in 2004 (252K) and roughly as many who came out for Kerry in the general (326K). Not bad.
OTOH this is nothing compared to the turn-outs elsewhere. Use Indiana as an example. There turn-out was over 1.2 million, almost four times the 317K turn-out that came out in the primary in 2004 and 25% more than came out for Kerry in the general that year!
Make of them what you will.
You can start the Woo Hooing! Miss. Dem Wins in GOP Stronghold.
I think my favorite part of that article was this:
Obama, and being associated with him, has smacked down a former President and a sitting Vice-President!
67% that’s embarrassing for America.
Congratulations to Hillary.
She did as well in West Virginia as Obama did in Georgia, Colorado, and Minnesota — all of which he won by 67%.
(We won’t mention Alaska, Kansas, and Idaho — 75%, 74%, and 79% respectively for Obama.)
I dismissed Rasmussen because they’ve been so regularly out to lunch this year. Look down through the data lists for all the evidence you need. SUSA has been as accurate as anyone.
But if outlier data gives you comfort, you’re welcome to it.
Spoken like someone with no argument left.
Congratulations indeed. For the week starting last Wednesday through now, she’s up 12 pledged delegates (that’s almost 10% of the gap with Obama) and only down about 20 superdelegates. A few more victories like this and Obama will definitely be the nominee.
What argument do you have, let’s count only white people from northern states or something?
Well pointed out Liberal. Still it must be conceded she currently wins the uneducated poor White Appalachian vote.
Still I find that turn-out interesting. Again, low relative to the rest of the country in which there was a real contest going on and in which many were coming out to vote for Obama, but still higher than the total West Virginian Democratic turn-out in the 2004 general! Sure some of that was coming out to vote against the uppity “elitist” Obama and won’t vote Obama in the general no matter what. But I have to think that more of it was a reaction against the incumbent administration and are winnable if McCain is successfully portrayed as Bush3.
As to the impact of this victory- If supers suddenly stop flowing then it had an impact on how the endgame plays out. If they come out today and tomorrow in the same numbers they’ve been coming or better, then all it does is keep Hillary Huckabeeing a while longer. Which she’d have done no matter what.
Check the Hillary thread. Obama already got another one this morning.
Lib beat me to it! Obama already got another one this morning. This win has only done one thing for Clinton, that’s inflate an already inflated ego. All the news agencies played the win down, waaay down, with headlines like: Clinton scores landslide victory but doesn’t change the race and ** Clinton’s wide margin doesn’t change Obama’s lead**… Her concession speech can’t come quick enough!
Great table RT! Very nice indeed! Check out the comments on that board…
Looks like Obama’s lead is from 5 to 8 supers up.
Demconwatch is now (9:40 EDT) showing Obama with not one but two new super-Ds so far today.
It’s 2-1/2, actually. (See Hillary thread.)
Ah, yes, so it is. But what’s a half-delegate between friends, eh?
Well, we have to check with Hillary. We may not be counting half-delegates who declare on Wednesdays.
Isn’t that generally the job of local business-owners and politicians?
Expecting presidential candidates to come up with economic plans to turn around each depressed area of the country seems rather unrealistic. Hell, expecting them to have the power to change regional economics is pretty unrealistic. Again, that’s generally the territory of local businesses, banks and especially local politicians.