See. “They arn’t even human” is a familiar refrain.
I kid. I kid.
There is Teddy. I have a feeling a lot of Season 2 will hinge on Teddy’s conflicted actions.
And Bernard, of course.
Hey now! Teddy just showed a little empathy and compassion! Okay, granted he’s Dolores’ lovesick puppet, but still…
And Bernard has empathy and compassion! Granted he is wandering around in a confused fog so it hardly is expressed, but still…
And Maeve has empathy and compassion! Well, primarily for her android daughter who likely doesn’t even remember her, but still…
And Dolores has tons of empathy and compassion! For Teddy. And her malfunctioning, semi-coherent “father”, I guess. What, we’re supposed to have empathy and compassion for everybody now :p?
Fully agreed on the rest, but this doesn’t bother me at all. She’s an android - just like Armistice didn’t sweat the loss of a limb and Hector ignored a hail of bullets. Presumably they feel sensation( necessary to function properly ), but I imagine they can pretty much ignore pain. And we know they are stronger than normal humans. Unless they have major structural damage( and even then, see Armistice )“awakened” hosts are likely going to act like a fast zombie that hasn’t been shot in the head and keep going. Normal hosts on the other hand are probably still programmed to go down when shot for verisimilitude reasons.
I agree. What were the Delos forces going to do if the hosts closed the gate? Jump their dune buggies over the wall?
And why is there that much REAL nitroglycerine in the park!? Didn’t they establish in Season 1 that such displays were controlled pyrotechnics set off by the park’s employees?
Since the security forces are obviously there to respond in the event the hosts go berserk, wouldn’t their weapons be more effective at taking out a berserk host like Dolores? Why are the other hosts not similarly bullet-resistant?
Can we expect that Delos will only ever send security teams just large enough to drive the plot forward, and not overwhelm the park with hundreds of soldiers, vehicles, heavy weapons, helicopters and the offshore amphibious assault ships we saw in the first episode?
In reality I’m kinda with you on this one. Of the things I mentioned in my post, this bothers me the least. I can see Dolores being smart enough to turn off her pain receptors and be perfectly fine with eating a bullet or two in non-essential places. I’m going with that theory until proven otherwise.
Agree with all this. It’s just plain lazy writing. If they wanted the battle’s outcome to be so uncertain, they needed to explain why the hosts had nitro, why the Delos people were so inadequately equipped, and why the strategy for taking down the fort was so ridiculously inefficient. (Aside from the writing, the direction of the fort-battle was also not particularly commendable.)
I had similar comments about many elements of the first season’s setup and plot. I still think the show’s popularity rested mainly on the copious nudity that HBO appears to greenlight for First Seasons, as a conscious strategy to build viewership. (The second season of Westworld, despite Simon Quarterman’s heroic effort in episode 1, seems to be following the Games of Thrones pattern of dialing back the nudity in subsequent seasons.)
The guns used in Westworld can tell if their target is a Host or a human being. If they read the target as human the bullets act like paintball pellets; if they read the target as a Host they act like real bullets. Now that the safety protocols are off they read everyone as a Host.
I didn’t know wtf was going on S1 and I loved it.
I don’t know wtf is going on S2 and I strongly dislike it/am ambivalent/bored.
It reminds me a bit of the Star Treky Black Mirror episode where we’re supposed to care about the digital cookies and not care that they band together to murder a real person, however terrible that person might be TO SOMETHING THAT’S NOT REALLY ALIVE. So yeah, the park stories were gory and gross but the dead guests and board members are real people and Dolores, et al are NOT. I’m not going to get on team robot. And because Team Human is so stupid and full of terrible people, I can’t really be on team human either. I know Anthony Hopkins probably had a lot to do with this, but how there isn’t one giant off-site kill switch is stupid. One big EMP, people. Broken hosts, rescued humans.
Except that Black Mirror makes you care about the “cookie” episodes because they are “real” in the sense of being copies of actual people’s consciousness subjected to the worst imaginable horrors. Like you wake up one day and discover you are now responsible for running all the appliances in your house or you’ll be sent to an empty room for 1,000 virtual years.
Westworld wants to make Dolores into HAL from 2010 while most of the other hosts are barely a step above the animatronics in Disney’s Pirates of the Caribbean ride.
Honestly, the show would have been so much better if they had kept it to a working park just on the verge of losing it’s cyber shit. The most interesting part of last season was watching the guests interact with the hosts as a backdrop to all the corporate intrigue while the techs race around keeping the wheels on the bus.
Yeah, look we gave up on that tactic in about 1865. Even the Europeans gave up on it in 1918.
The assault on the fort was so laughably bad that it had to have been intentional. Consider first that the actual frontal assault was just a diversion so that Charlotte could sneak in the back with a small team to retrieve Peter Abernathy. Consider further that whoever Charlotte is reporting to refused to send further aid until said Peter Abernathy could be retrieved. So the assault was conducted with whatever Delos Security was already on site. These were patrolling was hitherto an amusement park, with the hosts that are supposed to be deactivated by voice command, armed with paintball guns. They weren’t even aware of Dolores until Bernard identified her from the brain recording. They were mall cops.
Because the attack on the fort was Charlotte’s “let’s go, I need those men and that jacket” and she did not care about taking the fort … she got what she wanted.
On preview, yeah what Terminus Est said. 
Last episode I was *so *disappointed when they switched from the fresh new India set back to an hour of robots giving long speeches to each other.
There is only so far you can go with that though. Another season of it would have been excruciating and people would likely be clamoring for “where is this going” (people even were saying that in mid S1).
I disagree. I enjoyed the last season up to the last epi, so far this season is meh. I would be curious why Americans would want to live the Raj.
And why didnt that woman grab more guns, load them, and also the kukri?
I’m liking this season just fine, but I do agree that this last episode was the most “meh” mainly because of how straightforward it was.
I’m guessing Raj-woman will meet up with Hemsworth character so we find out his story. Prediction: She’s a host and doesn’t realize it. She basically plays the role of “oh I’m just a guest so you have to actually seduce me.” Notice we had that nice long scene of proving that guy wasn’t a host, but they never addressed her.
? They seemed British (or Commonwealth folk)
And as for enjoying last season. Yes, I did as well. But one has to admit that it was a LOT of exposition and scene setting. That really only works for a little while (ask Lost).
I’m American and I’d pick Rajworld over Westworld. I’ve never been much of a fan of westerns. Also Delos isn’t just going to market to North Americans.
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Same here. I think there would have been a much better payoff for a multi-season arc if we knew all the details and ins and outs of how the parks works… so when it goes completely off the rails, we understand it better.
Make it almost episodic with different guests but with a C plot of Delores’ growing sentience. End the first season with Delores swatting that fly…and you’ve really got something.
But at this point I’m convinced they are just making it up as they go along.
FYI, the official website calls it “The Raj” rather than Rajworld or whatever. And I read someplace that this supposed to be a world in which many large animals like elephants and tigers are extinct. (Not sure whether horses are supposedly extinct as well.) So part of the appeal is being able to interact with animals that no one has seen in the real world in a long time.
The idea of spending time riding around on a horse in a pseudo-nineteenth century town doesn’t appeal to me either. But I imagine that this world is highly urbanized and overcrowded. So there might be appeal in spending time in the wide open plains of the American West. (Still, it’s hard to imagine that this geography was created on an island somewhere in Asia, especially given how big Westworld appears to be).