Westworld S2 (show spoilers as it airs)

I’m thinking Bernard at some point was able to hack into the terraforming controls and flood Seatwater; this explaining the lake that wasn’t there before and his confession to killing all those hosts.

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It seems implausible that they can devote vast areas to open rangeland as we’ve seen, particularly if this is an artificial island (as was suggested on another site). Walt Disney World has an enormous amount of land compared to Disneyland but even it has most of the attractions within a fairly compact space. Perhaps if this is an overcrowded world, the luxury of being able to be that isolated in the open areas of the park is worth it?

Sorry for my ignorance but what is “OG” in this context?

In any case I am not so sure when that opening scene takes place. I think we are supposed to think it is past with real Arnold but to me the feel is more Bernard having been bought back on line (“lost my thoughts”) with Delores interviewing him as he had her. His “dream” was too much of what we were then seeing as the two more current timelines.

But what we have so far with Bernard is a damaged Bernard with Hale who is looking for “the package” and a Bernard a few weeks later without Hale who now seems to remember that he killed them all.

Personally though I am going to suspicious of anything the writers conveniently provide for us. We will be set up to assume things that will turn out to not be the case.

Rancher’s daughter/Wyatt Delores who knows more than from what we know she has reason to know and who is intent on taking over the whole world for her kind with Teddy at her side.

Maeve with Hector and Lee on a quest to find her daughter.

MiB/William being told that Ford made this new game for him, find the door if he can?

Borders between the parks permeable at the least.

And the question of why the IP is worth so much and the real purpose of the park from Delios’ POV.

The lines will intersect, they have to, but where, when, and how? How do they put together this game is made for MiB and the other lines, for example?

“Original gangsta”, a joking way of saying the real Arnold before he was replaced by robot Bernard.

Thank you. And correction to my “what we know” above - Bernard in what we are told is two weeks later … but dang the way the recovery are handling him seems … off. Is it real? Is it actually much later?

I really enjoyed it - I’d say S2 is off to a good start. So the vast Delos park is somewhere near China, I guess… hmm. Really does look like Dr. Ford was killed, but I wonder if perhaps he just arranged for a lookalike host to be killed, and is somewhere in the shadows, still pulling the strings. The faceless, silent, unfinished white hosts in the underground lab were certainly creepy. And a dead bear in the control room… brrr. Glad William/TMIB is still in the game. Maeve taking the Eurotrash programmer along to find her daughter has definite potential.

And was that Teddy, still “alive” and slightly smiling, floating in the lake at the end?

Nitpick: he was a sergeant, and not necessarily Civil War - U.S. Army uniforms and rank insignia didn’t change for decade afterwards, including during the Indian Wars that seem like the more natural setting for Westworld adventures.

I thought it was Teddy floating in the lake.

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Side by side comparison of the opening credits from S1 and 2 (YouTube link).

IIRC they had some weird alternate history going on in Season 1, with Confederate units fighting in Mexico.

We know the park is set after the Civil War, but I don’t think it’s too late after, given the Confederados are still wearing their old uniforms and include some quite young men but are explicitly ex-Confederate soldiers. Also, people do use the word “Union” rather than “Federal” or “US”, sometimes.

The official Wiki says they’re ex-Confederates, bitter-enders. A real-world thing, apparently.

Reddit speculation: Bernard waking up on a beach is part of a loop (i.e. he’s done it again and again and is “reset”), likely because Delos (or other authority) figured out he was a host and they’re trying to get information out of him. This is based on some odd behavior from Bernard, such as mouthing along with some of the words of the guy who speaks to him.

Nitpick: every time an android is killed, he/she bleeds red. So why is the fluid Bernie is leaking and replacing from another android white?

That wasn’t blood; it was supposed to be the Host equivalent of cerebralspinal fluid.

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Still should mean white stuff flying out of head-shot androids, not red stuff.

Ah! I couldn’t place him so thanks for that.

Fun question: we know hosts can die from gunshots (although Hector seems more or less fine), knife wounds (including throats cut) and so forth, but can they drown? Or is this all a clever ruse to make Delos think they’re all dead?

Also fun: Maeve is operating in “God mode”. Bernard mentions a system of links between hosts in close proximity when he’s doing the search for Abernathy; Maeve appears to be able to control other hosts (presumably via this) even though verbal commands are disabled, thanks to her upgraded security clearances. It’ll be interesting to see whether this works when she runs into Dolores.

I noted that the host who was shot during the party when the guests were trying to shoot a bottle off his head was seen pulling the same trick on a guest, although I haven’t gone back to see if it was the same guest that shot him. And “later” he’s seen throwing himself in front of another female host to save her - and gets shot, as does she.

As for “stuff flying out of heads” we see with the Ghost Tribe guy (who ironically gets scalped) that there is fake blood and brain matter surrounding the core, hence the splat when hosts get shot.

Loose end: what happened to Felix? Yet to be seen, I assume.

If the white stuff’s surrounded by red stuff, how would you tell?

From what I’ve gathered, the (current generation) hosts are much more biologically-based than machine-based, so I would imagine there’s a need for oxygen there. So I’d guess they could drown … eventually.

When guests are shot in the head, cerebrospinal fluid also spills out. It’s just that the blood is more strongly colored, plus there’s a lot more of it, so you notice the latter over the former. Same deal with the hosts. White stuff and red stuff both leak out after head shot, but you only notice the red. Bernard exactly where to stick the needle to get just the white stuff (really more of a pale yellow). It’s like getting a spinal tap.