So, how you doin’?
Voo Doo Lou? Is that you? (God, I love things that rhyme?)
I’m doing awesome! Except that I"m lonely and I am most decidedly NOT Asian. I’m the whitest girl ever. My new favorite pick up line is “Hey! I’ll be skinny soon!”
Since I"m losing weight rather rapidly.
And you know, hey…I think Asian women are sexy too. I can’t help it. But I’m also not one of them…no way I can pass. Just write me a note if you want. I’m here drinking my Bud light!
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P.S. I am listening to Alice’s Restaurant. Does that make me a rebel and therefore more interesting?
For the OP, since I speak Mandarin fluently, basic Shanghaiese and Japanese, as well as have invested considerable time and effort into the culture/history of many countries in Asia, I happen to be quite attracted to the cross cultural & academic aspect of Asian women.
I’m also attracted to the hair, absence of body hair, general Asian body shape, eyes, nipples…and I find all that wrapped up in a tall package (around 6’) speaking perfect Mandarin to be absolutely devine. It just don’t get any better than that as a total attractive package.
However, I guess I have to go on record that I find tall Tibetan women with powerful athletic bodies and those very high rosy red cheekbones to be absolutely the most physically attractive women I have ever seen either in person or in a photo.
ChoosyChipsAndCeilingWhacks, listening to Alice’s Restaurant certainly makes you more interesting, but I’m not sure it was even rebellous back in the 60’s.
This is specious logic, since it leads to “either way I’m right.”
I think the hair and the eyes are great, and I think for a lot of American guys the “foreign-ness” (most women they see don’t look like Asian women) is also a factor.
Okay… let’s see what may cause the … not fetish, but “special interest” around East Asians among westerners:
(1) Neoteny. People with what we perceive as delicate, youthful physical features will trigger the “OOhh! How cuuuute!” response, which apparently we’re hardwired for. That’s a huge part of the attractiveness equation right there.
(2) Exotism in and of itself. Around parts of the West every other person you run into is of Caucasian or African extraction or a mix thereof. The East Asian phenotype stands out.
(3) Orientalism – the socio-cultural propensity in Western culture to see Asia as mysterious, mystical, inscrutable.
No, actually it isn’t specious logic since it leads to “either way I’m right.” Unless you are using a definition of logic I’ve never heard of. You may disagree with what I said, which is fine, but that’s a separate thing.
Obviously I wouldn’t have said it if I didn’t think it was right a good chunk of the time. I highly doubt that everyone who likes Asian women likes them because they think they are small, meek, and submissive. I do believe that is a good part of the reason for a large number of people who do. I think we are now taught, in today’s society, not to admit those things. However, what we are taught does not undo basic sexual and other drives. Therefore, I think it is quite reasonable and logical that people who do not consciouly believe in the stereotypes have an unconscious component that is driving them.
I’m not sure what you found that is so difficult in that. I certainly understand if you disagree with it, but I see no reason to insult me by saying it is “specious logic.”
The way I see it, what you suggested is “if you aren’t consciously attracted to Asian women because think of them as meek and submissive, then you still think of them that way subconsciously.” If that’s not what you meant, let me know. I did not intend for you to take the remark so personally.
I find Asian women attractive due to their shiny black hair. almond eyes, and full lips.
I am only 5’6", so I do find women shorter than me to be more attractive.
Also, the idea that Asian women are submissive is mostly false. Most Asians prefer to avoid confrontation (saving face), and so they will either just agree with you, walk away, or ignore you. The worst thing you can do in most Asian countries is to become angry or shout at someone. So, most Asians have learned to avoid confrontation. Most Asian women can be very stubborn, they may not tell you that they think you are wrong, but they may pout, or refuse to speak to you. For myself, I would much rather deal with a woman that is pouting, than to deal with a woman that is screaming at me, or throwing things when she is angry.
I see just as many men here in Asia that are p-whipped, as I do in America, it is just that Asian women handle things differently in their relationships.
My good Chinese friend threw temper tantrums better than I could. Just sayin’ is all.
Well first off let me say that I myself am also very attracted to Asian women. Okay.
Now I beleive that the attraction towards Asian women isn’t necessarily true for all Asian women. That is, Asian women as a whole. What I do beleive is that the general genetic trends that seem to show up in most Asian women adhere to the basic rules of physical attraction.
Attraction is based on the criteria in a member of the opposite sex (that might a potential mate) that show that they are genetically endowed so as to pass on strong genes to your potential offspring. For example, women with an hourglass figure a) have 30% higher estrogen levels and thus are 30% more likely to get pregnant, b)have larger breasts, and therefore more milk to nourish future children, and c) have wider hips and a bone structure that makes childbirth easier.
The features typical of Asian women that show strong genes are most of the ones people have already listed. Beautiful hair shows evidence of proper nutrients and calcium levels, almond eyes means eyes that are more shielded by bone and eyelids, and therefore are more protected from possible irritants. The smaller, athletic build means that in basic jungle instincts mode, they can fight or flee better, and perhaps flee large predators in smaller spaces. Also, as one of the features I most admire, the skin quality is usually very soft and clear, showing both nutrients and proper moisture, and the skin tone contains UV-blocking pigments, while not being so dark as to lose heat in colder climates. The bone structure of the face is also in keeping with the defined jaw line and skull settings which reflect proper skeletal alignment and strong bones.
hmm… well I guess that took some of the fun out of it. Ah well, there you go, a long and rambling biological explanation of sexual preferance. And in conclusion, ASIAN CHICKS ARE HOT!!1!!11!1… lol.
No, that’s it. My point is that it doesn’t make the theory “wrong” just because it makes me right. 
I certainly wouldn’t say it is the case for 100% of people who are attracted to Asian women. But I do not think it is a huge stretch of logic to say that people may believe something, but even lie to themself about the unconscious reason.
It’s fine to disagree with the proposition (that people unconsciouly desire Asian women because they are small, meek, and submissive), but I do not think the logic is faulty to say that if you agree with the proposition that people might believe that unconsciously, that they could mask that in the conscious world (even to themselves).
I took the specious logic to be another bit of the, “I don’t agree with you, and it means that you have a difficult time with basic logic,” lines. I’m a bit touchy on it, as I’m getting sick of seeing people blasted with, “I disagree, you’re a moron.” I’d rather see, “I disagree, because . . . .” So I’m sorry I jumped on you a bit.
By the way, to others, it doesn’t matter if the stereotype is true or not (for answering this particular question). It only matters whether people believe the stereotype, and it therefore causes the “fetish,” “sexual preference,” or whatever we’re calling it. As I mentioned, there’s a bit of the “only tools a hammer, every problem is a nail,” syndrome going on around here. I understand that stereotypes are bad, and we are taught to bash them, but it’s not the point 100% of the time.
People are focusing on the ‘meek and submissive’ part, while I think the ‘small’ part is more important. Most guys I know are fairly confused about exactly what they are supposed to do in a relationship, and have a vague idea they are supposed to be a protector. There is this wierd feeling of fulfillment being with a girl you tower over, that she may really need you. It’s probably an instinct leftover from primitive days that doesn’t really have a need any more, but it’s still there screwing with our minds.
Fetish for asian woman . . . good. Fetish for asian woman in tub . . . bad.
I think it makes your logic faulty, which is why I said what I said. If I thought you were just wrong or just stupid, I’d have said that. That’s generally how I feel when someone takes the “you feel like I say you do, you just don’t know it” approach.
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Well Lucy Liu doesn’t play small, meek or submissive characters and I think most guys think she is pretty sexy.
I don’t think there is a bigger demand for Asian girls than any other group but with this new internet thing and a new availability of Asian erotica to just about anyone, they have gained a much larger audience recently.
Alrightey, I might throw my two cents in here, because I probably have a slightly unusual experience with this.
I must admit, I used to have a bit of a thing for Asian girls. This was back in high school. This ‘fetish’ was certainly not to the exclusion of girls from other races, but there was definitely something there. At this point, I was in school in a town called Ballarat, with a very small non-white population (there were a handful of non-white females in a class of maybe 150 people).
Now I’m at uni, and in my department, a decent-sized majority of the students are Asian (racially, at least - a significant portion were born here, but I’m not sure of numbers). After this, I find that the fetish has evaporated. In fact, strange though it may seem (since I’m white), I find myself considering white girls to be exotic and particularly appealing, presumably because I don’t meet them as often as I once did.*
Bearing all that in mind, it seems that for me at least, it was an exoticness thing. I have an alternative theory that might shed some light on the matter, though.
When you don’t see a certain race very often in real life, most of your experience of their appearance comes from TV, movies, etc. Since people on TV and whatnot tend to be selected for their good looks (among other things), seeing only those representatives of that race might skew your impressions of them somewhat.
Disclaimer: I’m typing this at two in the morning and I’m a bit tired, so if I’m not making sense it’s either because of that, or because I’m a git who can’t string a sentence together.
~ Isaac
*This comment might suggest that I only meet people through uni, and have no other kind of life. This is largely accurate.
How many of you guys actually live where there are an abundance of Asian women? I grew up in a predominantly Asian part of Houston (Alief, if you’re curious), and went to graduate school at a school where a large part of the student body is Asian (UT-Dallas).
Let me tell you… there isn’t anything special about Asian women. Sure, the hot ones are HOT, but that’s just as true of the Latinas, Black girls, Indian women, blonde Dallas chicks, etc… Good looking is good looking, regardless of your ethnic background.
But… many of the Asian women are just plain at best. Many of them are dirty-dog-ugly. Just like everyone else.
I think a big part of the Asian woman fetish is the “exotic” part of it, and Asians are particularly exotic to many Americans because you see very few on TV or movies, and the ones you do tend to look like Lucy Liu or those Asian models on that import tuner show on G4 or Tech TV (can’t remember which).
Of course if the only Asian women you see are super-hot, you’ll tend to have a thing for them.
Then again, maybe there’s something hardwired. I’ve heard tell of really unattractive blonde nurses and other female personnel going to Vietnam during the war, and being revered as exceptionally beautiful by the Vietnamese, while the US men didn’t want anything to do with them.
Listen, I spend every day with an Asian woman who is in no way small, meek or submissive. Sure, she’s child-like. My daughter’s only 13, for heaven’s sake.
Dunno why a lot of men are so fetishistic about Asian women, but then my brain’s not wired that way.
Having had family members AND friends married to Asian women, I am here to tell you that they may be small. They are not meek. They are not submissive. They are not child-like. Asian women run their households. Period. It’s best if the men just…you know…submit.
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Lot of Asians where I went to college too, so I know you’re right.
I’m not one of the people here counting myself as having an Asian fetish, but I agree. I guess at this point, we’d have to start rounding people up and having them compare the average hotness of a random sampling of Asian and non-Asian women. People who consistently found a standard Asian woman more attractive than a comparable white (or whatever) woman might be said to legitimately have a fetish or preference in that case. Anyone want to put in that kind of work?