I could see many bad outcomes to apologizing for the pulling of rank. She deliberately did the Friday switch thing, so if she came to apologize to me I wouldn’t think ‘how nice’, I would think ‘two faced bitch’, they’re not friends after all. We’ve seen he has a temper and has no problem letting go in the heat of the moment, his ‘I’m a man. You should respect me’ comment kind of rubbed me the wrong way and makes me think Dolores should just let this drop. shrug
I guess I just disagree that she should apologize because I don’t think it will help. I think they should let the drama settle and stop talking about his weirdness with the other co-workers.
I’ve got nothing to say about the OP, it’s already been said, but I have to say King of Soup, that was a beautiful post. I had to wipe away a tear too.
C got assigned to team B for some reasons. It’s not Dolores’ call. It was already decided.
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AND if Dolores wanted the change, she shall have voiced it out at the meeting. Oh, she don’t need to. She’s has been there for ten years so she is entitled to anything she want by whining loud enough for it!
That post by The King of Soup has to be among the most eloquent I’ve read on this board. Absolutely superlative! And that earlier comment is right, you really should write a book.
She got herself a *longer vacation/i], by virtue of Paycheck Friday. And she swap C out of Team B and put herself in, and Team B always have Paycheck Fridays. Which means C potentially has no long vacation while Dolores, by pulling ranks, get to enjoy a longer holiday than usual:
C would have gotten an extra day off just by being in team B. But not anymore.
So? That does not give her the right to take his days.
Yes, he could have handled the bad situation better, but it was still a bad situation.
When the schedule first came out, Delores essentially said “I’m more important than you, so I want you to give me your shit.” When she went behind his back to force her importance, she essentially said “You are not worth the scum I scrape off my shoes.”
Seems to me she went to the boss to have a meeting, and then he went to the boss and had a meeting.
So you think it’s appropriate to call a coworker a “fucking coward” at work?
I have said up front, she should be unapologetic. I am the senior in my lab. I get, and deserve, most of the perks. Do you know why? Because I built this fucking thing from the ground up. I’m here on the weekends, I’m on call 24/7, and I have had to train every single person here. If someone were to get the preferred weekend off, you can guarantee that I would get it first.
Damage it was not. Basically she offended someone who she didn’t like in the fist place. Someone, in fact, who appears to be a problem-child, and probably won’t last until Thanksgiving next year anyway. Well it sucks to be him. Welcome to the company!
The sequence of events to me is - the schedule has been decided, Dolores wants to be in team B, which means she want to swap with C, who is her backup. She went to ask C. C rejects. She went to ask her Boss. Boss said nothing. She then go for another meeting (which is unrelated to the incident). Apparently the schedule was changed. Cue “fucking coward”.
Read what I have written. No.
I see. For your situation, perhaps you shall get the preferred schedule. But do you know anything about Dolores’ case? Does her senority means more work than more people? I admit that I don’t, and since C can back her up, it seems that both C and she are doing the same level of work. I might be wrong regarding this, though.
You state a good case where senority might means better off-days and schedule. Let me state a good case where it ought not. When I was conscripted, I ended up as a military clerk. Everyone at the office is expected to do a 24-hours duty. Then there’s the inevitable weekend duty.
The strange thing is that you can an extra off day if you do your duties on Sunday, but none for Saturday. And the guy planning the duty was a corporal. And what he did? He give the Sunday duties to himself and his friends, regardless of who they are and what work they do. He doesn’t do more work than me. He takes time off to go up to bunk and play his PS2. And I can’t do a single shit about it because I know if I made a big deal, I will end up like C in the story. And he’s a senior.
And there was this time where I had to cover three straight day of duties just because of more pulling of ranks.
Her boss didn’t say anything, and she didn’t bring it up again either. The boss obviously decided she was right, and change the weekends. Like I’ve said before, she should have never asked him to trade, she should have just gone to the boss and told him to change it. The C wouldn’t have even known. Does that make it better? Same result, except she covered her ass…
I understand where you’re coming from, but she’s not doing him any harm. Unlike your corporal she’s not making him work extra days (although granted he has to use and extra day off, which should be brought up with management), or extra shifts. Also, how would you have felt if a Gunny had done that to you? We are talking ten years sonority here. That is not trivial regardless of how you feel about it.
Yup. As long as said coworker is offended in a professional manner, and work boundaries are not crossed. It’s ok to offend folks you like too, but then you might lose sleep over it.
Whether the “pulling rank” was right or wrong, we here cannot decide. At my company it’s part of the culture - those on whom rank is pulled feels disappointed, of course, but neither resentful nor cheated.
Dolores came here to vent the “fucking coward” comment - which she was correct in feeling offeded at. She may not have thought through all that has been discussed here, but has amply demonstrated her good sense in this thread. I’m sure she will do what she deems correct - even if that’s nothing. Who are we to direct her actions?
From what Dolores has posted, this guy sounds like a mysoginistic asshole, as well as socially awkward. I’m sorry, but at what point did any of us come to “owe” anyone else a social life? The guy acted like, and apparently continues to act like, a dick. I think some of you are projecting.
Sorry King, but I’m going to have to disagree with the rest of the group. Unless you title your book Specifically Written to Make the Antagonist Seem More Sympathetic (And Bearing No Similarities to The Actual Person Being Discussed).
As for the seniority, notwithstanding the strawmen being thrown up (surgery vs pedicure? Please.) sorry, but that’s generally the way the corporate structure works. If you can think up a better way of doing it, by all means, post it. Hell, my assistant gets days off before I do because he’s been here longer. I’m all ears.
Am I to say, “That’s expected. Those people with senority just deem it is all right to jerk people around for their own purpose?” And that won’t happen. Sergeants and above don’t have to do those mundane duties. And that’s still unfair. If the rules state that everyone get fair amount of duties, even if you are a General, then it’s unfair for you to push your workload on someone’s else just because you are a General. That’s what I think of course. The military thinks differently, of course.
And for C’s case, he could have lost potentially ‘extra’ vacation day. And the problem of just ignoring him? It’s the vibe “Oh I got something which I don’t like. And so I am going to pull ranks to deprive someone’s else of his potentially extra off days.” If the rules state that Dolores could have gotten a better schedule because she’s the senority, then I have nothing to say.
And so? Yes, we all open decry Dolores if the guy she’s stealing from is an upright, honest, decent and polite chap, but just shrug it away if the person she’s trampling on is someone who is trying to fit in and probably needs a lot of schooling on social graces?
Okay, does your assistant get more days off because by company policies he’s entitled to them? Or is that he felt that he didn’t get enough days off, so he pulled rank by going to a supervisor to transfer someone’s else days off to him? And at the same time, that someone else lost his days off because of that.
The situation now is somewhat akin to the above scenario. C was originally in team B. Dolores wants to be in team B. So she pulled rank. That might be acceptable practise in the world. Doesn’t mean it’s right.
I think Dolores is being reasonable about this.
It is reality that Senior personal get to do what she did.
C acted very unprofessionally but with good reason, I am sure he felt backstabbed by the event.
The Boss has straightened it out, so now some other co-worker is probably on the worse schedule.
Dolores recognizes she was being a bit of a shit but this is how workplaces work.
light strand: I don’t know what your intent is with these posts, but you are sounding very bitchy. Obviously a lot of people sympathize with C.
It did not help Dolores that she was slamming C for being an odd-bird.
Think over both sides here.
When I had to work weekends/holidays, there was 3 of us to handle the 3 big Holidays. Thankfully we were able to work it out ourselves without the Boss just deciding. Our senior HVAC Mechanic had kids and took Christmas off, the next senior was Indian and preferred to take Thanksgivings over New Years and didn’t care about Christmas and I was young and single and mostly cared about having New Years off. So I worked Thanksgiving and got Christmas & New Years off which was great. We were lucky; it worked out for all three of us.