You gonna eat that?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
Nah - that’s what’s best in life. 
Ahh, found it.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5637746&postcount=57
You take that as an insult? Then obviously the problem is you’re looking way too fucking deeply into what I write to find insults. I tried my best to explain why telling a woman, “I love your tiny little tits!” isn’t exactly supportive, but I certainly didn’t insult you for doing it. In fact, I couched the whole thing in plenty of stuff about how I knew you didn’t mean to offend women. You simply were not understanding why so many women in the thread don’t take that as a compliment, and I tried to explain it.
Like I said, if disagreeing with you constitutes insult, the problem is that you’ve been looking for reasons to feel insulted by me.
No. You go ahead. It’s not like I was saving it or anything. So please, enjoy.
Yeah, what are your measurements?
Cause, that would have changed everything.
Now I am a little frightened. No wonder C apologized.
BTW: you kept a very good sense of humour about how this thread went. That was might good of you.
Jim
I agree. I’m a seniority whore though. It’s too bad that team assignments can’t be made so that senior employees get the better work schedule, avoiding individual conflicts. That’s management’s problem, and something they should address.
At the last place I worked, my department agreed to schedule vacation days according to seniority. If the woman who’s been there for 20 years wants the days around the holidays, she should have them.
When she first started, she took what was left. She’s paid her dues, deferred to others, now it’s her turn. I don’t see a problem with that.
Hear! hear!
You implied that I was self-centered and skeezy, which in retrospect doesn’t seem all that bad, so I apologize for that one. It was just a real WTF? moment for me. It was in that stupid cat thread that I still have no idea what you were on about. You never did explain yourself there. As for the other instances, I honestly don’t remember what threads those were, so any search I could do would be pretty tedious and fruitless. You’ll just just have to take my word for it that I sensed a pattern beginning to form.
But I’m glad you set me straight.
Actually, no, I said you sounded self-centered and skeezy. If I felt you actually were self-centered and skeezy, I would have been a lot less polite. I was trying to offer suggestions as to how you might avoid sounding self-centered and skeezy. Why would I sit there and offer help to a jerk on disguising his jerk nature?
And I got carried away in the cat thread. Which is why I apologized to Pink Marabou. Frankly, I think you were a dick in that thread. Which is why I didn’t apologize to you.
Yeah, I suppose. “I didn’t say you were a duck, just that you walked and quacked like one.” One could take that as a veiled insult, but I’ll trust you that that’s not how you meant it.
Yes, I was a dick in that thread. So were you. So was everybody. It was a dick thread. As I remember, I did try to mend fences towards the end of it, but you got scarce all of a sudden.
Thank you!
I was giving specific advice on how you might avoid misrepresenting yourself as a skeezball. I was certainly not the only one in the thread who said that telling a woman how much you love her tiny little tits was the wrong way to deliver a fairly sweet sentiment. Like I said, you’re obviously trying very hard to find insults in things I say to you; I assume you haven’t successfully found any other incidents of it. I don’t appreciate you making accusations about my behavior that have no basis in reality.
As I’ve said, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. It’s just that when I read it, I thought it could have been interpreted as insulting. I really wasn’t sure what to make of it either way. It was subsequent encounters that led me to the conclusion I reached. And no, I wasn’t looking for insults. In fact, it some great effort on my part to read some of your posts in the most charitable way possible. I still came to the conclusion I did.
But as I also said, I appreciate your setting the record straight. I’m glad it was just my imagination.
Well it looks like my three hour lunch has caused me to miss the fun.
tdn, get over yourself. You aren’t important enough to be stalked. Neither am I. I have no idea who I have dogged in threads, and who I haven’t. Nor do I remeber who has dogged me, and who hasn’t. It’s two threads, and not worth mentioning.
However,
this is fucking ridiculous, intellectually dishonest, and just plain stupid. Asking for the perk before hand, it a far thing from doing afterward. Do you now want to compare it mom’s surgery or other stupid shit like that?
As far as you not offending anyone: Bullshit. People are offended if you as them to throw away used coffee cups, or fill the copier with paper. God forbid you tell someone clean up their shit, or how to do their job properly. I can’t tell folks how to do things I’m paid to tell them how to do without half of them getting offended. Hell, one place I work, my very existence offended someone (who thought they should have gotten my job instead of me). Offending people tactfully is probably one of the most useful skills one can gather from work history. So if I offend someone I don’t like, fuck ‘em, if I offend someone I do like, well fuck them too, but I’ll feel badly about it.
**Jrfranchi ** I accept your apology, but I think it’s totally unnecessary. Never apologize for your feelings. You have a right to them, and I don’t have to agree. I won’t dislike you because I disagree with you. I’ll just say your wrong, and feel free to think the same of me.
I agree, except the assignment of days off should be done, seniority factored in, and then KEPT that way. People should not be told, “Okay, the schedule is set, here are your days off” and then a month later be told, “Oh, Jane with 10 years experience just decided she wants to take off the day after Christmas so even though you were already told you could have it off, you can’t anymore.” And then what happens when NewGuy picks some other day to replace his previous Dec. 26 vacation day and gets it all approved, and then that day comes around and he is again told, “Sorry, John who has been here 20 years decided today he wants that day off so you can’t have it anymore.” What Delores did is to make a request for days that had already been granted to someone else. That seems pretty low to me.
Something I don’t understand is why, if “Team B” is so preferable and has all these extra days off, that Delores didn’t request to be on Team B months or years ago.
Why did she only care about being on Team B when she found out the guy she doesn’t like is on Team B? She’s always known she herself wasn’t on Team B. Why did it only become an issue when she discovered some guy she thinks is a weirdo was assigned to Team B?
I must be missing something here.
Not saying I agree with it, but this is exactly how most union shops are run. For example, at my husband’s prison, vacation is awarded by seniority ONLY. The most senior officer 1/362, gets to select all of their vacation days (with 25 years that is 42 days a year) first. Then officer 2/362 and so on. Those officers could select every Friday or Monday or something like that (except a few). Since only so many slots are open each day, per shift, it happens that many new officers, (like 350/362) can not have a whole week off and can only take vacation days on Monday, or Thursdays, or Wednesdays, in the months of February, March and October. Many times, not connected together. Try planning a family vacation in the summer before you have 10 years of seniority and you are out of luck.
Just submitted FYI, so that you know, in a union shop, Seniority is absolutely, positively everything. And, as my hubby says, you have never seen something more vicious and more evil than a union exercising seniority, especially if layoffs or benefits (such as vacation) are involved. Solidarity my butt, it is every person for themselves.
I’m over myself. And I never claimed he was stalking me, I just perceived an unusual number of ad homenim attacks. He said it was unintentional, and in some cases, misinterpretation. I accepted that. Done deal. Can we drop it?
As I said, it was hyperbolized for your understanding. And yet you still don’t understand. It was not a perk beforehand, else she wouldn’t have had to ask him to switch. The fact that he could refuse indicates that he already considered the days off to be his own. It’s not inconceivable that he’d already made some sort of plans that far in advance. For Thanksgiving I often do.
Or he was just being a jerk. Which is a distinct possibility.
OK, framed in that way, I see your point. Perhaps instead of “offended” I should have said “undermined.” Or “cheated.” Or “devalued.” He was essentially told that his time off was less valuable than that of another employee. That’s just bad for morale. I can’t say I blame him for being pissed.
What you’re missing is that this is a new (reinstated) policy. He was her; what we call; back-to-back. In other words, he filled in for her Fridays off.
Team B does not, I repeat does not, and for those with reading comprehension problems, does not, get extra days off. If you have B Fridays you get more four day weekends, where on the other Friday you get equal number of three day weekends.
A valid question. I’ve always been on team B, since 9-80’s started 3 or 4 years ago. One year ago, we were told that my department was suspending 9-80’s because “there wasn’t enough coverage.” Shit wasn’t getting done to management’s satisfaction.
So, we seem to be back on schedule, and everyone kept asking for 9-80’s to resume. So management has been meeting for weeks to figure out how “to maintain coverage.” So they came up with the “back-up system.” We are to have an alternate voicemail and email message to say how to contact our backup when we are gone.
So, I used to be on B team. C gets hired and told we have 9-80’s. I think he didn’t know until after he accepted the job that 9-80’s were suspended. I’m not sure of this, though. So we have a meeting, and it is announced that 9-80’s will resume. Hallelujah!
Except I’m not on B team anymore. I was not happy.
But everything worked out for the best.