What do you tell your oldest kid, if you "had" to get married?

I heard this from a comedian (Jimmy Carr?) on Netflix on Sirius XM, and it really made me laugh:

Carr: “Any married couples here?” (A couple must have raised their hands)
Carr: “Great - how many years?”
Couple: “18 years”
Carr: “Any kids?”
Couple: “Yes, two”
Carr: "Nice. How old are they? 18, and …???
(much laughter)

Back in 1977 or so, I went to the wedding of a college friend. It was a very nice typical wedding with a dinner reception and all the usual rituals.

About 4 months later, the happy couple had a baby which was large enough that it had to be full-term. At the time of the wedding, no one knew that the bride was pregnant, including the bride.

I went to the wedding of two friends around 1999 or 2000. The bride was about 4-5 months pregnant, which was no real secret but she was always a bit heavy so it wasn’t obvious if you didn’t know. However, I think a few people at the wedding still didn’t know, judging by some of their faces when the newlyweds announced at the reception that “it’s a boy!”

My mother was born 9 months + 1 day after my grandparents’ wedding. She used to say that it was a good thing she wasn’t born prematurely because people would have been horrified to think that her good Catholic parents had had sex before they were married (the wedding was in 1923, she was born in early 1924). Heck, since first babies are frequently late, maybe they did – but it certainly doesn’t matter now, almost 100 years later.

That’s her story and she’s stickin’ to it!! :wink:

Las Vegas is part of the “Mormon corridor” Mormon corridor - Wikipedia or “mormodor” and the map there shows the range but it’s from southern Idaho down to northern Arizona an off into Nevada.

If a young man had had sex prior to going on a mission, it requires that he see a “General Authority”, one of the top leaders of the church. Even back in the late 70 we would joke about the “Federal Heights Syndrome” where kids from that affluent neighborhood would be able to quickly get the repentance process checked off from their General Authority neighbors.

Well, she was what is called a “full-figured woman.”

We sat at a table with other college friends. A couple of them were the kind of people who you could count on to say anything catty that occurred to them. Neither opined that the bride looked preggers, and after the baby was born expressed great surprise that she had been five months along at the wedding.

That the guests were surprised doesn’t surprise me. As you say, “full figured” can cover a multitude of issues. It’s the bride being genuinely surprised to learn of her own advanced pregnancy after the marriage that’s a bit suspect.

There certainly are women who have very minor symptoms of pregnancy beyond weight & bulk gain. Gain that could be well camouflaged by general galloping obesity But they’re a small minority. And there are those who are really, really clueless about their own bodies. Again a small minority. And those who don’t ever go to doctors until something changes, like getting health insurance now that they’re suddenly married to somebody who has some. Another small minority.

Is the ample bride telling the truth that she didn’t know or suspect her pregnancy at the time of her wedding? Certainly possible. But IMO not the way to bet in general.

A fun story though, and thanks for sharing. :slight_smile:

When I lived in my old town, I attended a co-worker’s wedding. Nice outdoor wedding in mid-summer, and when she came back to work after a week’s honeymoon, she was suddenly visibly pregnant and wearing maternity clothes. That’s right, she was 6 months pregnant, and didn’t even suspect her condition until she had her final dress fitting a week before the wedding. Fortunately for her, the dress had a lace-up back so it was adjustable.

She was in college on a sports scholarship, and had played volleyball and basketball, which shut down her menstrual cycle, and yes, she’d taken a few belly flops in the meantime. Her son was born in early September, and she returned to school a week later! The pregnancy was NOT planned by any stretch of the imagination, but definitely wanted.

I have no survivor guilt. Those others were all weak. :wink:

I think it was my daughters who first put it all together that my (either oblivious or too mortified to bring it up) son was born too soon after our wedding. We haven’t ever really talked openly about it with any of the kids, but not because of any shame or anything.

My wife and I already lived and owned a house together, and had the “big, church wedding” well along in planning when we needed to move matters up - largely for insurance reasons, so she’d be covered. We went ahead with the church wedding later that year, and my wife says she pretty much started to show on our honeymoon.

The funny part was my devout Catholic aunts who figured it all out during the summer, between weddings 1 and 2 (yes, we celebrate both anniversaries) but were so happy to finally be able to ask after wedding 2.

That son is about to turn 25 and we tell him all the time to be careful. We love his live-in girlfriend (not yet fiancée) but she’s about to start a doctoral program and doesn’t need a distraction at this point.

Depends. I don’t even know whether my parents had a ketubah, and I have certainly never seen it if they do. We were not super-observant, but definitely Jewish, and they were married in a Conservative synagogue…

I’m not sure which truth would be harder for my niece and nephew - the fact that their parents married because my sister was pregnant (although my parents begged her not to) or the fact that their father left because she wouldn’t abort the second child. Neither fact has come up in conversation that I know of, but both (now adult) kids loathe their father.

StG

As a teenager I worked out via wedding dates and my birth date that my parents married because my mother was pregnant with me.

They only had wedding photos from the wait up. There were only a couple of photos at all, but they conspicuously avoided the bride’s waist. If any of you have photos of your parents’ marriages, and they’re like that, it’s a pretty good sign.

But it never bothered me at all. Yeah, they were enormously unhappy and being stuck together probably made both of their lives worse. But that wasn’t my fault. I was a foetus - I wasn’t to blame!

Also some of those sudden marriages can turn out happy, anyway. The reason I cottoned on was because a friend talked about how her parents had decided to explain why all their wedding photos were waist-up only, and they were very happy.

These days, most people wouldn’t care. It’s actually more common to get married after you’ve had kids, than before.

Wow, he sounds like a real sweetheart.

Six and a half months between parents’ wedding date and oldest sister’s arrival date in 1964. My three siblings and I all knew pretty much from the beginning; mom was EMPHATICALLY vocal about how we kids had to avoid any sexual contact with our partners at all because her and my dad weren’t even having sex when she got pregnant, and now she was stuck in this marriage instead of going into the convent like she’d always planned. I think I was 14 or so when I finally asked, during one of these sermons-on-the-mount, what it was they were doing if they weren’t having sex. That was not one of my smarter moments- there are things one does not need to know about one’s parents. :nauseated_face:

Weirdly, mom is also super super ashamed of the pregnant-out-of-wedlock thing; woe unto you if you happen to post anniversary wishes on Facebook that include the number of years they’ve been married.

It’s often said that there are two sets of people on Earth who do not have sex: your parents and your children. :wink:

Any cases of the reverse? People who “have” to get pregnant before their families will have to be okay with them getting married?

21ish years ago we got married when she was 5 months pregnant. It was not a secret to anyone and it was never kept from my daughter. I’m not sure it is was anything she learned or just kind of knew. We had been together for five years at that time and living together. We were going to get married at some point this just accelerated things.

No it didn’t work out in the long run.

I had a friend in HS whose parents did that; at the time, people couldn’t get married in their state without parental permission until age 21 unless the bride was pregnant, and her parents weren’t 21 yet and wanted to get married so she got pregnant in order to circumvent permission, which neither set of parents were willing to give.

They were married almost 40 years until he died, although I heard they separated a few times.

Not quite the same thing, but there sure are (or at least were) an awful lot of parents who shortly after their offspring’s wedding launch into the “When are you going to give me grandchildren?” guilt trip.

As if the only purpose of marriage is to produce crotch puppies.