What do you think? Was she wrong?

Sorry, this is long but I needed to put in details:

A friend (we only speak on the phone) called to ask me if I’d help her out with pet sitting for ten days. A couple she’d just met were going on vacation for 10 days and they wanted 24 hour care for their two 6 month old pups. She said she could keep them at night and asked me to keep them during the day.

She knew I was only available during the day between 8 AM and 6 PM. The puppies would be kept at the owners home during the day. She would take them home with her at night and return them in the morning. She said she wasn’t an early riser so she wouldn’t bring them back until around 9 AM in the morning.

She said she only wanted to charge $25 per night. I researched pet sitting rates for our area and told her that wasn’t nearly enough, especially for two big puppies. I told her my rate per day was $70 and that was cheap compared to everyone else. I warned her that it was a lot different keeping puppies and very time consuming. We had several conversations about this and she said the same thing each time.

First, she expressed amazement that anyone could make that much money pet sitting. I repeated that $70 was cheap for our area. Then she said “Oh well, it’s not about the money to me. I just LOVE puppies! I know you need the money, though, so charge what you need to. Don’t worry about me.” She then said that she could never tell them she wanted that much money. I also wondered out loud to her how the owners would feel about her charging so little and the big difference between what we were charging. She said not to worry about it. She’d explain to them it wasn’t about the money to her, etc., etc,.

We set up a meeting with the owners to discuss the details about 5 days prior to them leaving. We met a little early so we could talk once more about the rates and she insisted that we speak to the owners separately about what we wanted to charge. Shortly after our arrival to the meeting, she told them she only wanted $25 per night, that she couldn’t wait to keep them, they’re so CUTE. She then motioned for me to tell them what I wanted to charge. I told them $70 per day. I could tell they were pondering about the rate difference and SHE didn’t say a word. I started babbling about how days were more work than nights, puppies would be sleeping at night and needed constant monitoring and walks during the day.

The owners agreed and we were set. When we went back out to the car, I asked her AGAIN was she sure. Yes, she was sure.

THEN after about the fourth day in of pet sitting, she says she wants to discuss the money again. She began by saying how it was harder than she thought it was gonna be to keep the puppies, that she’d been sick and her husband had to help her. She and her husband thought it would be fair if we divided the money evenly. It wasn’t really fair that I was making so much more than she was and we were putting in the same amount of hours.

Needless to say, I was very upset. Furious, even! I reminded her about all of our conversations. I told her that she needed to have this conversation with the owners, not me. That if she needed more money, she should ask them. OH NO, I couldn’t do that! I wouldn’t want to upset THEM. She then said that she knew it was her mistake and that if I wanted to back out, she’d understand. She repeated this several times. I truly believe she wanted me to back out so she could take over. I said as much.

I told her I’d made a commitment to the owners and certainly wouldn’t back out while they were gone. She then said “Of course, you wouldn’t even have this little job if it weren’t for me.” I reminded her that we wouldn’t be making the amount we were if I hadn’t done the research and spoken up. She went on again about how much work it had turned out to be. I repeated again that I’d warned her several times and she’d chosen not to listen. I told her I NEVER would have asked her for part of the money if our positions were reversed. (By the way, she certainly doesn’t seem to need it. She and her husband are building a new home in an affluent part of town and own their own business.) I said I was very disappointed about her comments and her decision to ask for the money.

Here’s why I decided to go along with splitting the money evenly. Up until this happened, I’ve had great respect for this lady. She’s been extremely nice to me in the past. She knows just about everybody in our area and could be a source of future employment for me. On the flip side, she could also do damage to my reputation if she chose to. We don’t spend time together but I looked upon her as a friend.

We finished out the rest of the week together. I continued to feel upset about her request and I know it showed when we would meet at the house for pet sitting duty. I know I wasn’t as friendly as I was before but I was very polite and courteous. She was very nice to me, also. I’ve asked a few friends if they thought she was wrong in asking me for the money and they’ve ALL said that she should have taken responsibility for her mistake and left things as they were.

WHAT do all of you think? Thanks for reading… :slight_smile:

I’m with your friends. She was out of line.

I’m a full-time freelancer. If I screw up in estimating my fee on the job, it’s my problem, and my responsibility to either (1) suck it up and consider it a lesson learned for next time, or (2) renegotiate with the client. Even if I could, I wouldn’t go calling around to their other freelancers, asking what they’re getting paid for similar work, and then asking those who are making more than I am to send me a cut because “it’s not fair.” That’s just nuts.

Your “friend” is a major jerk.

I think that you and your friends are right. The lady insisted on charging the pet owners X, then decided it was more work than she’d bargained for and she wanted to be paid more.

Instead of talking to the pet owners she decided to make YOU pay HER. That was an absolutely dickish move on her part.

I would say that you just learned a few hundred dollar lesson about what sort of person she really is. I doubt there’s any way she will admit what she did was wrong and you’ll never get that money back, so unless it’s the difference between paying the rent this month just write it, and her, off.

I think there’s always some bias in storytelling, and I include myself in that. But if your tale is even remotely accurate, your “friend” seriously needs a lesson in how to suck it up. And you let her off the hook. Granted, you had your reasons, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she pulled something like this again in the future.

In the end, she basically got exactly what she wanted: more money for herself without more money being charged to the owners. She didn’t explain the price difference to the owners between what the two of you are charging (and neither did you, really), so in the end, she ends up looking better, and the only person who really suffered for it is you.

Don’t get walked on like that again.

I know you explained why you ended up splitting the money with her, but honestly I’m still finding it hard to feel sorry for you because you caved. That was your rate, which you negotiated, and she successfully bullied you into sharing it with her. She’s obviously in the wrong, but I’m disappointed you gave in.

I think you were justified for the position you initially took, but since you decided to split the fee evenly with her, for the reasons you stated, I believe you should let the issue go and not go around seeking affirmation for your original point of view.

Thanks to everyone for their kind responses. I’ve worried about this for several days. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t off base in my reasoning so if I’m faced with a similar situation, I’ll better know how to handle it.

To Asimovian: I did my best to tell the story as accurately as possible without bias. Yep, I let her walk on me! I was afraid to push the issue because she’s capable of doing a lot of damage if she wanted to. I’ve only lived in this area for 7 months and I’m trying to get started with freelance work. She’s lived here all of her life and moves in the circles that offer my best chances of employment. I’ve also seen first hand the damage that can be done when hurt feelings are involved.

To Audrey Levin: Not looking for sympathy. Needed objective opinions that weren’t biased. Of course my friends were gonna side with me. :wink:

To Wilbo523: Not going “around” anywhere. First post. Like I said before, I needed an objective opinion. She continued to be so SURE that she was justified in her request that I began to wonder if I’d made too much of it. We were paid yesterday evening and I really hoped she’d think about it and reconsider.

What she did wasn’t right at all, but I understand your reasons for giving in to her unreasonable request to split what she didn’t negotiate for herself. My only concern would be getting more work from her - this woman is someone you need to be very careful with, so she doesn’t take advantage of you again. I’m not sure about appeasing her so she doesn’t badmouth you in the future, though - I would have a hard time being friends with someone who had treated me so carelessly as this woman.

I’ll definitely be very careful in any future dealings with her if there are any, that is. If she recommends me for something that I can do alone, I’ll accept.

If she wants to do something together, I won’t hesitate to remind her of what happened previously. I’ll be sure we’re paid separately and won’t be caught blind sided again. I learned a valuable lesson.

AND I left her in no doubt about how I felt about her actions. I’ll be surprised if she calls again, anyway. We all live and learn, sometimes the hard way unfortunately …

Your contract for $70 a day was with the dog owners. You had no contract with your “friend.” She negotiated her own contract with the owners. Since she was unhappy with the terms of the contract, she could have tried to renegotiate with the dog owners (good luck!). That’s what I would have suggested to her if I were in your position. I would definitely not have given her any money.

If I were you I wouldn’t enter into any business deal with this woman again. She doesn’t take responsibility for her own actions, and doesn’t understand who is responsible for what.

Don’t you hate it when you’re composing your own post as you read down the page and then find someone has posted EXACTLY what you were going to say?

In other words: this.

I don’t know why she thinks it wasn’t fair; she was getting exactly what she asked for, $25/hr.

Awesome. She’s giving YOU room to back out because of HER mistake. WTF???

Bravo.

I think your friend is a whiny child who refused to heed the voice of experience (you), refused to assert her interests at the outset with the pet owners, and then refused to take responsibility for those choices when it finally became apparent to her that you were right. No exaggeration, this is the sort of behavior expected of 10-year-old kids, not grown adults.

It’s unfortunate that she holds any kind of power over you. If I were in your shoes, I would endeavor to associate with this person as little as possible; if you continue to do so, you are likely to experience this sort of thing again.

What everyone else said. Just another voice saying you did fine and you were in the right.

Not what you said in your OP. And you came here.

No biggie. Completely understand your reasoning for backing down: long term gain potential vs. short term principaled gain.

If she’s so nice and respectable, why would you fear retaliation from her if you didn’t cave and split your money with her? Also, if she’s so affluent and doesn’t need the money, why did she pressure the living snot out of you for an extra thirty (or whatever) dollars a day?

The problem is not so much that she’s a whiny child, it’s that a whiny child has so much power over you. How can you make it so that she has no control over your future?

Your “friend” was wrong, yes.

But as I see it, you made at least two mistakes here, and are in danger of making a third.

Mistake 1: Accepting this job in the first place.

Sounds like you had your doubts from the start but didn’t listen to your gut.

Mistake 2: Giving in to her unreasonable request to split the money. This has already been covered.

(Potential) Mistake 3: Ever having anything to do with this woman again.

Be that as it may, I think her behavior here trumps that.

Now that she has successfully bullied you into giving her your money once, there’s no reason to think she won’t try to do so again. Any future work she were to get for you, you’d always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. Is that worth it? Work on cultivating your own contacts.

That’s victim-speak. Don’t give her so much power over your decisions.

Friends don’t do what she did to you.

Life’s too short. Get this person out of yours, the sooner the better.

Hey, you had a $25/day learning experience. This woman isn’t trustworthy and has poor judgment. Make a mental note and move on.

Quite an experience to live in fear, isn’t it?