What -exactly- is wrong with Peter Pan?!

Ramsmilk, you of all people should know that the part of Pan “belongs” to no woman. It’s for anybody that’ll have it. That’s his way. :wink:

Peter Pan Man isn’t a freak, he’s just weird. This guy is a freak. But it’s his body, he can do whatever he wants with it.

well, I don’t like him because I got endless grief from my friends:
“oh. you can’t be his Tink, but you sure can be his Wendy”

um…

NO!

but in all seriousness:

I think he’s a bit off, yeah. But if He’s happy, so be it. I think he’s one step shy of being one of those furries people (the ones who dress up like mascots - bears, etc-and go to conventions. the ones who love their stuffed animals in ways I can’t imagine)
I picked this page just because of the name. Hi Opal! :wink:
Here is my question, which I am not sure if anyone has touched upon.

my experience with this site:
women usually laugh and think of him as incredibly immature.
men usually make a reference to homosexuality.

do you think a lot of people may not like him due to homophobe tendencies?

The University of Common Sense, Boyo.

This is more than a playful little innocent fixation. The guy has altered his appearance, and is attempting to (successfully, I might add) live his fixation to one degree or another.

Peter Pan is an interesting archetype. His “never gonna grow up” philosophy suggests a fleeing from responsibility as well as a denial of his own mortality.

These are two pretty common anxieties, but his taking it to such a deliberate and overt level can be seen as a seeking of validation for these feelings. He’s trying to draw others into his little fantasy world of denial.

It will most likely stifle his career, romance, and family life, and as he continues to age and finds he’s failing to live up to his archetypal standards more and more it may send him into a depression or a crises. I’d be surprised if he didn’t suffer severe bouts of depression already.

But if that seems like a cool deal to you, go for it.

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Then again, American society might be best thought of as a savory bouillabaise, best enjoyed when one does not overly obsess about the individual ingredients.
“Life is a minestrone
Served up with parmesan cheese”

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Hey - there ain’t nothing wrong with being pan.

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Hip, hip, hurrah for expressing individuality, but that doesn’t stop me from thinking he is pathetically silly.

All his cute sweetness is enough to make me wanna hurl or throttle someone, and now a Tink?!?!? OH GAG!!!

**Scylla wrote:

The University of Common Sense, Boyo.**

Oh, you got one of those emails, the one that offers you a degree, any degree from a non-accreditted institution? I deleted that one.

**These are two pretty common anxieties, but his taking it to such a deliberate and overt level can be seen as a seeking of validation for these feelings. He’s trying to draw others into his little fantasy world of denial.

It will most likely stifle his career, romance, and family life, and as he continues to age and finds he’s failing to live up to his archetypal standards more and more it may send him into a depression or a crises. I’d be surprised if he didn’t suffer severe bouts of depression already.**

Hey, you’re better than Madame Cleo! All she does is read cards. You offer psychological advice like you’re an accredited shrink! And thru the Internet, too! By simply looking at his website and reading a couple pages of his material, you’ve able to diagnosis his problems and offer advice on treatment. All without that silly necessity of interviewing the patient and listening to him. Tell me, do you talk in a Jamacian accent, too?

Why do I picture Freyr typing furious sarcastic drivel, shaking his pageboy out of his eyes, and wiping flecks of spittle off his green tights?

Scylla why are you acting like you’re a psychologist, diagnosising people whom you’ve never met?

Yes, this guy might take his hobby to the extreme, but is that any reason to suggest he’s psychologically unsound, as you’re doing?

What’s the difference between this guy acting like Peter Pan you acting like you have a PhD in psychology?

Well Freyr, I am neither acting, nor claiming to be, nor impersonating a PHD in psychology.

You seem to think I am, but I have never made that claim.

I will happily defer to someone who shows up with a claim on credentials in this area, but until and unless they do, my opinion and reasoning are valid.

I don’t need to be a licensed airline pilot to know that the engine exploding on a plane in midflight is a bad sign.

I don’t need to be a Dr. to know that if I fall and my leg suddenly acquires a new joint pointing in a peculiar direction accompanied by great pain, that I have broken it.

I don’t need to be an accountant to add a column of figures.

I don’t need to be a plumber to see that a drain trap is leaking.

I don’t need to graduate a cooking school to make toast.

And, I don’t need a degree in psychology to opine that this guy has a few loose screws.

What, you expect me to dis weird? Ain’t gonna happen, bucko!
And Scylla, I think you’re making statements a bit broad based on the information presented. I personally know a lot more people who have probobly MUCH more serious issues, most of which stem from trying to be what they perceive as “normal”. Lighten up, man.
Sprinkles pixie dust on Scylla :slight_smile:

Well, that’s hitting a little close to home…

I have to wonder where you get your ideas of the average furry from, though. The little media exposure I’ve seen has been so negatively biased as to be completely misrepresentative and inacurate. I know quite a few furries, and the majority seems to be rather normal. Certainly not the large group of freaks that it always seems they’re being made out to be (Though really, any fandom gets portrayed in a negative light, to some degree; Normal boring people don’t make the ratings, and apparently, neither does portraying them in a possitive way).

Sorry if that seemed a little snapish, but I’ve seen quite a few friends getting roasted just because they aren’t completely normal, so it kinda hits a nerve… I’ve never seen what the problem is with being different…

I’ll tell you the same thing I have told my daughter, who BTW has gone through her own freakishness, extreme punk look which included a bald head with an Alfalfa looking chunk of hair sticking straight up on the back along with another look that can’t be categorized except to say it was all her own. She now looks almost normal but still has her individual quirks. Those quirks are part of what makes her so wonderful.

I have always told her that “I think it is GREAT that you are secure enough in who you are that you don’t care what other people think and that you don’t feel the need to conform to society, just don’t be surprised or insulted when some people point and laugh.”

She was willing and able to accept the fact that some people thought she looked silly. It just comes along with the territory when you chose to look outrageously different. If the nerve hurts a little bit more than you are willing to handle, then it is time to weigh what is more important to you personally, the jeers or expressing yourself. Not everyone will think you are a wonderfully creative individual, some will think you just look silly (like I feel about Peter Pan).

It is true, I have never personally met a furrie. I can only go by what I have read. I was introduced to the concept via a Vanity Fair arcicle, an negative one as far as press goes.

IAMAP, but yes, I think that’s abnormal behavior. If it makes you happy, then so be it. I am not personally affected by this at all. Being different is all relative. but I think anytime someone completely escapes from society via an alternate ego, something needs to be addressed. Its one thing to have fun ,it is another thing entirely to make it a lifestyle.

TO ME it is weird, dressing up like an animal to escape reality. To ME it is weird to masturbate in stuffed animals.

I know not all participate in that behavior, but just the same, I would be horrified if Mr. Baboon came home in a furrie outfit as a fetish.

Your chosen screen name belies your true intent. Give in to your furry side… :wink:

Esprix

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you found me out!

I doth protested too much, no?

These examples are not analogous to the claims you made. You said

You have presumed not only to specifically diagnose but also to prognose this guy across the internet, in quite definitive terms. You have made specific claims about the future progress of Pete’s mental health for which you have provided no evidence other than a specious “common sense” which is certainly not common to the rest of us. Do better than this or back off.

Mattmcl:

Yes.

Not true. I discussed my reasoning.

No. And. You can’t make me.

I’m answering the OP with my opinion and reasoning which I’ll be more than happy to discuss.
The fact that you may not like or agree with my opinion is fine by me.

The idea that you think I am wrong to have or post one, or to judge this guy is ridiculous. That is the OP of the thread, and indeed the guy is inviting judgement both implicity by the fact he’s advertising what he does, and overty, as he provides an email address for comment.

If you wish to discuss it, that’s fine. Discuss my arguments, not whether you feel I have any right to make them. I do.

Indeed, you have every right to post your utterly unsupported opinion as if it had some credible basis in reality proportionate to the terms in which you phrased it. And when you do so, I will call you on it.